Raymond Lam Flirted With Rose Chan While Dating Mavis Pan?
Since the circulation of Raymond Lam Fung’s bed photos, ex-girlfriend Mavis Pan Shuangshuang once again spoke to the press, revealing the reason for their break-up. Aside from third party, model Rose Chan Ka Woon, Mavis discovered “cheating” evidence in Raymond’s cell phone and there were even fourth and fifth parties in the relationship! Recently, video clips of Raymond inducing a woman to tears and intimate photos with Rose surfaced.
After collaborating on a music video together, Raymond secretly invited Rose to his apartment, Dynasty Court, for a “dog play date.” Raymond was allegedly involved with Rose while dating Mavis.
Raymond’s Secret Cheating Videos Exposed
Recently, video clips which appear to be Raymond’s secret cheating videos have been circulating. In the self-filmed video clip, a man’s voice clearly resembling Raymond’s voice told a woman, “Look at the camera.” Although her eyes were originally closed, the woman suddenly opened her eyes. Next, the man gently said, “Open your mouth.”
In another video clip, the man and woman appear to be engaged in “backdoor” sexual activities. Both the man and woman’s backs were to the camera. The woman’s hair was messy and the man ordered, “I cannot see your face.” However, the woman continued to cover her hands with her face.
Dog Play Dates at Raymond’s House
Despite Rose’s continual denial that she was involved with Raymond, recent photos circulated in which Rose and Raymond appeared to be enjoying themselves together. In addition, the pair took iPhone “fish eye” photos which distorted their facial features for fun. From the angle of the photos, it was obvious the pair were hugging each other closely.
Allegedly, Raymond even invited Rose to his apartment, Dynasty Court, to allow their dogs to play together. While dating Mavis, Raymond also asked Mavis to his home to see his dog. According to an inside source, “Rose loves dogs. She owns a white poodle and often uploads photos of her dog on her blog. Sometimes when Rose appears at functions, she will also bring her poodle along. Raymond owns an Alaskan Husky, however he does not bring the dog outside often. When Raymond first got involved with Rose, he often asked her to bring her dog to his apartment and take dog photos together.”
On February 28th, Rose uploaded photos of her poodle on her blog, indicating that she took her dog outside for fun. Next Magazine noted that Rose’s photos were taken around the same time Raymond took photos of his Alaskan Husky at home. Sitting next to Raymond’s dog was a woman whose flowered dress was also captured in the photo. The flower print matched the outfit Rose wore in a photo taken with a friend in Taiwan in February.
Mavis Pan Said Raymond Had Other Women
Rose was selected by Raymond to film a music video in Taiwan. With Rose spending time at Raymond’s apartment, no wonder Mavis was so upset and said Raymond was not loyal in love. Last week, Mavis was in Hong Kong to try out different images for her upcoming pictorial book. Raymond was in Xiamen, China at the time. Often portrayed as having hurt and betrayed Raymond, Mavis countered, “Not only was there a third party, there were fourth and fifth parties too! I met the wrong person!” Distracting her sadness, Mavis turned to a tempting hot pot dinner. “In the past, Raymond and I had hot pot together too…”
During the hot pot dinner, Mavis noted, “I don’t remember when those photos [bed photos] were taken. It was unfortunate that these photos were used by other people. If I were the one who had released them, then I could have done so while we were still dating. There would be no need to incur my current negative image.” While speaking with Hong Kong reporters, Mavis said, “I felt I was hurt in the incident….”
Rose Chan’s Response
Appearing as a guest at a Jipi Japa shoe function, Rose Chan insisted that she never went to Raymond’s house. Regarding the photos she took with Raymond, Rose said they were taken for memories after completing Raymond’s music video.
Rose said, “I truly, truly did not go to Raymond’s house!” When reporters requested Rose to swear that she never went to Raymond’s house, she was afraid to do so. “I didn’t want to swear that I never did so because I was afraid this would induce more tabloid rumors!”
Rose indicated that her mentor, Sin Kwok Lam, was quite strict with her. Pointing out that she was only 18-years-old, Rose said she will focus on improving her martial arts, singing and acting career rather than date. Drawing clear boundaries with Raymond, Rose said, “After filming his music video, we have not seen nor remained in contact with each other.”
Excerpt from Next Magazine #1101 and Orientaldaily
Jayne: Undeniably, Raymond and Rose Chan got along well. They seem to be thoroughly enjoying themselves in the photos they took for fun. Also, Rose has dimples, a feature which Raymond loves in a woman! It may have also been possible that they had dog play dates at Raymond’s house….
As for the anonymous sex videos that Next Magazine incorporated in the article, that tidbit was likely added for sensational effect. The videos sound like some anonymous couple and cannot be concretely linked to Raymond.
So there is potentially a sex tape eh? And pray tell what is ” “backdoor” sexual activities.”?
What our ex-Deputy Prime Minister supposedly did.
I see, the real backdoor kind or maybe just you know position wise.
And poor DPM. Now back door, front door, side door, all doors. From news alone, he has led a very eventful life.
Oh Raymond, you naughty naughty boy.
Next one, Moses please? Want some scandals on Moses other than him burning some coffee or something. Kenneth? He’s a playboy right? Any scandals other than riding the MRT like us mere mortals?
The biggest scandal Kenneth ever had was dating Margie Tsang.
She was divorced? He is single? What’s the scandal? That she is much older? She must have been his favourite actress in his youth!
There are still people out who think older woman/younger man relationship is a big deal.
Haha, I just want to show how unscandalous Kenneth’s image is.
Also shows how wide his preference of women is isn’t it? Is he a bit like Sonija? You know, die hard romantic, doesn’t matter how old, young, etc? Margie Tsang was probably a childhood fantasy come true.
Margie was married in 1996 and divorced in 2002 to a business man named Stephen Lam.They had a son together. She is about 8 years older than Kenneth.
I still get shocked by a relationship between a much older woman and a younger man. I think I am influenced by my mom who is really traditional. For some odd reason, I never think that those types of relationships will last if the woman is way older than the man.
@HeTieShou,
I think older woman/ younger man relationship is fine as long as the man’s maturity is up to par. Many older men fantasize to have a young girlfriend in the 20’s no matter what the man’s age. As long as age does not result in lack of physical attraction and they can bond and communicate with each other on a mutually satisfactory level, then that’s fine.
However, for divorced mothers (especially with young children) to date seriously and remarry is especially difficult. My ex-coworker and friend both said that their children (from the first marriage) will always be the priority before their boyfriends. Which man is willing to always be second place? Plus it is not fair and it soon becomes obvious that the woman’s heart has her children first. Eventually when the children get older into the teen years, perhaps the divorced mothers can let go and have a place in their hearts to love another man.
I think moms usually love their children foremost, perhaps it is because the children are part of themselves. One of my co-workers, a single mother, never married, raised her son to full adulthood and kept boyfriends throughout the years. She juggled no-strings attached sexual relationships to satisfy herself, but directed all her love towards her son.
@Jayne,
Thanks for sharing your stories. My mom and I are more open about older women dating younger men as long as the age gap isn’t too big. People always say that men don’t mature as fast as women, but I think it varies from person to person.
I think it is hard for both men and women to remarry if they have already had kids from a previous relationship. My mom who is really traditional doesn’t think a women who has had kids can remarry to a guy that has never been married before, but she thinks it is ok for a guy who has had kids to marry a girl that has never been married before. That’s just her traditional way of thinking. I think people will always put their children first, but that seems more that way for a mother. Some really devoted fathers are like that as well.
@Funn, the reporter’s choice of words was “entering from behind,” which is up to you how to infer.
Anyhow, the tidbit on the sexual videos can not be directly linked to Raymond, so I don’t think we should worry too much about the contents. Next Magazine seems to be describing some random anonymous sex video.
You are curious about other TVB artists’ sexual scandals? Kenneth Ma seems to be quite dry, although personally I feel that he was/ is interested in Selena Li, who may not have returned the interest.
Personally, I felt the most risque sexual scandal concerning a TVB artsit was former Mr. Hong Kong, Francois Huynh’s sex video with his ex-girlfriend, who happened to be former mistress of a rich man. In the video, Francois allegedly appeared dominant and shouted at woman, then turning his face around to look at camera. It was definitely him in the video.
If Next had such “dirt” on Raymond, they would have published video stills or uploaded voice clip so fans can authenicate whether it was Raymond’s true voice. When Frankie Lam and Kenix Kwok’s cheating rumors surfaced, Next/Appledaily media uploaded voice clip of Kenix in cheating discussion with her former manager, TC Wang.
Thanks for the info Jayne! I did not know that Francois Huynh had a sex video with his ex. I did not even know that they had sex while they dated. It was actually revealed to the public?
If so, then I am not sure if I believe these rumours with Raymond because if there were videos, then they would have revealed them to the public already. I think Raymond has learned after the Edison Chen scandal that things may get spilled anytime, so he is probably more careful.
@HeTieShou, Francois Huynh’s sex video scandal occurred in February 2009. The video was allegedly saved on Francois’ cell phone (?), which he lost in a taxi (?). The details are a little hazy now, suffice to say tabloids got a hold of the video clip and published stills in their publication. I saw the video stills in the magazine (didn’t see the actual video) and there was a screen capture which showed Francois’ face distinctly. I also read the description of the video and supposedly there were some grunts in the video, in which Francois’ back was to the camera engaging in the sexual activity, until the last screen where his face turns towards the camera.
Prior to the release of the sex video, Francois and his relationship with Karen Lee was already controversial, since she was 15 years his senior and she was also the mistress of a wealthy man.
@Jayne,
Thanks for the info… I wonder if that was what caused Francois and Karen to break up(besides the fact that she was a mistress to a wealthy man)?
I wouldn’t be surprised if he did cheat on Mavis with a number of girls.
The fact that he went out with a girl like her shows that he isn’t exactly a Mr. Sweetheart
Backdoor huh? Didn’t know Raymond is both a player and an anal addict. These pretty looking boys. You can never tell what type of fetish they have and it seems that this pretty boy has quite a bit of fetish……….backdoor……haahahahha. it can only be anal………..
Are you implying he was catching instead of pitching? Now that is a scandal!
hahahahahah. That was a good one. Catching or pitching, probably both. Maybe he is into the 3p stuff? I think so.
Actually, if Raymond only flirted with Rose while dating Mavis, I don’t think that is a big deal. I often see guys that are dating but just flirt with girls all the time. One of my close friends was always in a serious relationship and is now married to the same guy, but her boyfriend(now husband) flirts with girls once in awhile and she doesn’t really mind. It seems like Mavis is pretty jealous and possessive of Raymond when they dated.
@HeTieShou, casual flirting can be very hurtful to the other partner in the relationship. I think it’s important to have that mutual respect for each other’s preferences and not to hurt each other intentionally. Of course “flirting” can sometimes be hard to define…would you consider “dog play mates” to be “flirting” or just friends getting together?
@Jayne,
Well, it also depends on how you define flirting. If it isn’t anything that serious like kissing or anything intimate, then I don’t think that is a big deal. Maybe my friend and I are more easy going then others? Or my friend is so secure about her relationship that she did not mind. However, it is true that I know that many other girls would mind. Flirting is sort of a general term and it depends on how you define it. I totally agree that you have to have mutual respect for each other and not intentionally hurt the other person. IN my friend’s case, she understood and really trusted her boyfriend so she was fine with it. I know that that should not apply to everyone so sorry if I gave that impression. But once again, it also depends on how we define flirting. I personally think that dog play mates are just friends getting together since they share a common interest so that does not necessarily imply flirting or cheating at all. If someone is so jealous to the point of thinking that their boyfriend/girlfriend hanging out with their opposite sex friend as flirting/cheating, then I wonder if they even trust their boyfriend/girlfriend enough??
@Jayne,
I guess I defined flirting as just talking and laughing with someone of the opposite sex, but I think it is much more than that… I am sort of confused with the term “flirting” since is always used so generally and casually that I never really can define it… Maybe it more serious than I thought… I should look it up to see an actual definition of it…
LOOK IT UP! ROFL!
Casual talking and joking with the opposite sex is not flirting behavior. Throwing knowing glancings, dropping intimate innuendos, touching with intentions.. WELL anything done with other than casual platonic friendship is considered flirting in my book! LOL I’m actually rather easygoing, but I can sniff a flirt [male or female] from 100 yards away HAHAHA.
Are “dog play mates” considered part of flirting behavior? Depends on the intention. I happen to be a touchy speaker myself, but I always draw the line [emotionally] unless I intend to lead that person on.
Correct, whether it’s “flirting/cheating” or not is simply semantics. What matters are the intentions behind such acts and how the involved parties feel.
I guess the basic of flirting is to at least have sweet nothings in SMS-es and to have the infauated look whilst looking at each other.
Rose could be a platonic friend of Ray’s and with the media writing it this way, any hopes of a friendship is ruined. Also from the pictures published on Next, I didnt feel that they were hugging closely.
Not trying to defend Ray since its none of my business how many women he has played with however men in general do not like possessive women.
@Jayne,
Ok, I just looked up flirting… I guess it was much more than what I originally thought… I can understand how it can hurt the other person, but it also depends on the situation too… With Raymond’s case, maybe it wasn’t that bad but who really knows behind the closed doors??
LOL you’re so funny and innocent haha.
Thanks for the article, Jayne!
I think it’s quite obvious that there was something going on between Raymond and Rose. I feel more inclined to believe Mavis’ side of the story, and am actually beginning to feel sorry for her. Seems like Raymond is more of a bonified player than he has been leading the public to believe.
Maybe it’s just me, but I find that Rose kind of resembles Linda in certain photos and angles. Linda also has dimples! Makes me wonder if all those rumors of Raymond’s past interest in her are, indeed, true.
I honestly have to say that I agree with you, Starry. I’m starting to believe Mavis’ side of story. At least on the level about how Raymond’s father felt about her when she attended the family reunion.
No doubt that Raymond got the looks so if he’s flirting with other girls or cheat on Mavis then that’s pretty much a given. There’s a Chinese phrase that “pretty boys have no heart” (lang chai mo boon sum).
I don’t think Rose and Linda share that much resemblance other than they each have dimples. Rumors between Raymond and other past female co-stars may or may not be true. Only they know it themselves. All we do is just taking a guess.
Sorry to interupt the ideas exchange… but when you said Raymond got the looks…yeah he may got the handsome looks now but thanks to the surgeon who did a marvelous job for building taller his nose, expanding his chin and etc. I’m 100% sure Ray had been under the PLASTIC operation before or probably after he joined TVB.
@Veejay, That’s true that he got “better” looks compare to his past and I agree. But I was just referring to his good lucks in general. I thought he still look good before the nose job. I’m pretty sure it’s after he joined TVB and started his acting career. There’s a difference when you look at his first time being the male lead and other series he starred in.
Honestly, even if there was something flirting going on between Rose and Raymond, IF Mavis and Raymond’s relationship was as strong and as serious as they previously mentioned, they should have worked it out. But then again, his family did not approve of her so maybe it wasn’t worth the effort. Even though her story is more believable now, it also implies that she probably leaked those photos as revenge which also sort of shows what kind of person she is. Also, how do you explain that one photo of her with that child and European man?? If she is calling Raymond a cheater, then she isn’t any better…
Good point!
In a traditional family, parents MUST approve of their kids’ boyfriends or girlfriends. My family is like that and a part of me feels that if I don’t get that blessing from my family I feel really sad. That’s what Raymond is feeling especially he knows what his father thinks.
Now I have a question. For those who were raised in other places and grew up in a traditional household, do any of you feel that your parents’ blessings important or does it not matter to you? And why?
Hehehe now it’s as if they are the new 2R lol…umm maybe they just have really good chemistry? Can’t a guy and a gi hang out as friends. But if it’s true his girls are getting younger…like and old rich man….lol I doubt they are even friends….
so much for the why I like raymond lam essay. Raymond is just being a guy.
Your sort of guy?
you know it funn babe! Just as I said, they appear all nice and wholesome. At the end of the day, it’s gotta get to you and that booty.
Jayne, did you get a chance to see those videos?!
@Funn, are you asking about the alleged backdoor video mentioned in the Next Magazine article? Like I said, I think they could be describing some random sex video. Even if It were real, I may not watch it.
No no, I was referring to your comment on Francois Huynh who was probably a gigolo from the way you were describing his activities
@Funn, was I too descriptive? No I did not watch Francois’ video, didn’t bother searching for it. I read a tabloid magazine, which had some screen captures and description of the contents. I remember the description because I found the news quite shocking at the time.
Kinda descriptive but good to know. What happened to him? Is he related to Stephen Huynh? Reading his profile I am convinced he either part times or full times as a gigolo.
@ Funn
He’s Stephen Huynh’s younger brother. It’s Stephen who suggested to Francois to try out for Mr.HK as an experience. Francois won. He’s the Mr.HK of year 2006. He later signed with TVB and played some small parts. It seems that beside working in TVB, he also has some side job. He was tutoring the woman (forgot her name) French, when he became involved with her. They even open a pressed conference and Francois openly declared his love for her and wanted to be together with it. But, they broke up not long after. Francois has also terminated his contract with TVB.
A question: Where is the clip?
no, ray no gay, if he gay why he dating mavis. and why alot girl in his live. i belive to ray, he too good for all the girl . he likes sweet men and gentlemen.
Loser loser loser
The next thing is Rose Chan will be swarmed by reporters next and this series of rumour will continue…
I’ve been watching the reports and the papparazzis will keep biting Rose’s tail about it.
林峯我何時何地都撐你!
ray and rose only friend, ray invite rose only for his mv. because this rumor, people think ray is player, no , ray no playboy, he only want be sweet men.
With additional news published each week and with Mavis changing her answers on how she ended things with Raymond, this is turning into one great big mess that’s it’s so tiring to assess who is right and who is wrong.
Many people were commenting on Raymond’s taste in women when his relationship with Mavis hit the headlines, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it’s totally up to him in who he likes. However, if Mavis was right about him cheating and even dating more than one girl during their relationship, that is really wrong of him.
I still have reservations for Mavis’s claim that he cheated on many other girls while they were together. Firstly, with Raymond’s packed and busy schedule, does he really have the time to spend with so many different women? They hardly have any time to spend together and since they cuddle and sleep when they’re together, shouldn’t that mean he’s too busy??
Were they ever in a ‘real’ relationship considering how Raymond never had time for her and they couldn’t see each other until every 3 months? It’s almost impossible to keep a relationship going when people are apart for so long, especially with another added restriction that they can’t be on the phone for more than 15 minutes. If Raymond was really seriously involved with Mavis and planned on letting everyone know like he said, why would he cheat on her? And with so many other girls too.
but Raymond’s schedule does consist of meeting many different women, maybe he couldn’t help fall for some others since Mavis wasn’t around. a fling doesnt hurt if no one knows. too bad Mavis got wind of it and made a big deal.
When you are in the circle, it is really really hard to resist the temptation since you are constantly around very attractive people all the time. Which is why I commend Andy Lau for being so faithful to his girlfriend/wife all these years. I am not saying that it is right for Raymond to cheat(if he did in the first place), but it is hard for him not to since he is constantly around so many attractive girls all the time. ALso, how serious was he and Mavis?? They may not have been as serious as they claimed to be, especially since his dad doesn’t like or approve of her. No one really knows… They are no longer together now and I hope that they both move on and let bygones be bygones…
Actually he cheated or not, it’s still a mystery.
i would really afraid and sad if i read article about he is a gay. arent we fans, fortwwunate that he is not a gay. last time, i really thought he is a gay cause he said he never date for years, but now proven that he isnt a gay and he is worth for us to support to the fullest.
Or Mavis could just be his ideal smokescreen and his latest crying session is because certain “backdoor” activities took place because “frontdoor” activities was not possible with a particular genderfn23(&F#@$(&F(H#0n2c… oops i say too much.
so, take it easy, it is just his normal sexual life.
belive in karma, ray you honeys are with you, all the way,
EVERYBODY CAN HAVE GUY FRIEND THAT YOU COULD HUG TIGHTLY. ITS NOT FAIR RAY BEING TREATING DIFFERENDTLY. FOR JUST HAVING CLOSE PIC WITH A FRIEND
LEAVE HIM ALONE. WHY IS SHE TRYING TO EXPLAIN . AFTER READING ALL THE ARTICLE . SHE DOESNT LOOK REAL TO ME. DONT TELL THAT ROSE AND RAY LIED AND SHE IS THE INNOCENT ONE.
RAY. WISHING YOU ARE HAPPY AND HEALTHY EVERYDAY OF FOREVER. HOPING YOU LIVING YOU LIFE WITH SMILES AND LAUGHTER. SUPPORT AND LOVE YOU ALWAYS. RAY YOU EXISTENCE MAKES MY LIFE WORTH LIVING.
WAS SHE DOING READING RAY TEXT MESSAGES. ITS CALLED PRIVACY. IM GETTING QUITE ANNOYED WITH HER NOW. SOMEONE NEEDS TO SHUT HER UP. AND HOPE SHE BECOME NOTORIOUS.
DONT WORRY RAY . I ALSO BELIVE IN KARMA ONE DAY SHE WILL GET WHAT SHE DESERVE AND HER PAST WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT HER.
If the article above is indeed true, Ray’s taste in woman is all over the board. Mavis and Rose, that seems like two extreme axes. Although I do support Raymond but I know he’s no angel. It’s usually the quiet one that has lots of hidden secret and fetish. But in regards to Rose, uh, isn’t she a bit young, 18, come-on.
poor ray image has taken a hit and its not like he did anything wrong in the first place, sure, taking those photos with girlfriend isnt good idea, as everyone know by now, but its not a crime, he probably confused to find himself in the unique position.
awww, i feel bad for him, its ok ray, be strong, i still support you, hope to see him in more series again, and also in concert too.
i be there for you ray, no one else can hurt you, i always with you untill finish my life, you make me more longer life with you smiles, dance, sing, joke, and you chok.
hating this women, all she doing is just trying to ruin ray image.
so, now friends cant hug closely, and girl plus guy.
just cuz ray famous doesnt mean people have the right to invade on ray privacy,ray always worked hard and tried hard in everything he does, again this not what he deserves, it would be really terrible,
besides, rose is only 18 and they only collaborated once, how is this believable.
@jim, So Raymond can’t like someone whose 18? He can’t like someone who is younger than him? Sometimes, all it takes is once for the chemistry to click. I also heard that when people are friends for too long, they’ve fallen into the ‘friends zone’ and there is no chance of romantic sparks. So why is it so unbelievable??
ray only one and only idol, my inspiration to keep holding on, need my daily dose of ray.
apparently, hugging close means dating, so if two people were to hold hand, they be married, clearly this doesnt make sense, and no where online the clip was seen.
i wanna ask a question, did or does ray even have the time for so many women, the answer is kinda obvious when you hear about his work schedule, a doesnt even sound beleivable.
Well if he combines sleeping with dating, he may have at least 1 hour of time each day.
RAY IS A JERK!!
poor ray, to be caught in the snare, well, a lesson well learnt, hope ray is more matured and wiser, i still support him, because we should go by him works, credits to his talents and hard work.
mavis not really love ray at all, she pay back him love with bitter taste,why she do this to him the one who love her.
Jim, you need to get over Raymond Lam at some point of your life!
my logo: the loyal fans will always stay with him never leave him alone, good or bad he only human not angel, no one perfect in the world.
Jim, am I reading right? You’re finally admitting he is not an angel? Finally!
Rose,please don’t follow (Raymond Lam) too much,he’s not good guy, alway’s every night nighthawk, i’am afraid him bad influence for you.