“Friendly Fire” Script Irks Mainland Netizens
Although only four episodes of TVB drama, Friendly Fire <法網狙擊>, have been broadcast, the content in two episodes has already brought about a wave of political controversies with mainland China.
Starring Michael Tse (謝天華), Tavia Yeung (楊怡), Sammy Leung (森美), and Sharon Chan (陳敏之), the drama is the first production of producer, Man Wai Hung (文偉鴻). The script contained dialogue that appeared to shame the Chief Executive of Hong Kong, Leung Chun Ying (梁振英). Another scene involving pregnant mainland Chinese women greatly offended mainland netizens, who criticized TVB and demanded for an apology.
Shaming the Chief Executive of Hong Kong?
In episode 3 of Friendly Fire, one scene featured police officer, Kam Po Tei (Sammy Leung) trying to toss trash into a nearby garbage can, but missed and sent it flying onto Ai Mei San’s (Sharon Chan) face. As a policewoman, she charged him and said, “Even if it was the Chief Executive who broke the law, the punishment is the same as all commoners.” This line was interpreted as shaming Leung Chun Ying, the Chief Executive of Hong Kong, who has close ties to Beijing.
Another example happened in episode 4, where Kam Po Tei found out that Law Gai (Chung Chi Kwong 鍾志光), a dishonest agent, has been illegally changing the structures of apartment units in order to make more rooms for rent. Angrily, Kam Po Tei exclaims, “You won’t be off the hook even if you are the Chief Executive.” Again, his words seemed to shame Leung Chun Ying.
Mainland Netizens Offended and Demanded Apology
The scene in which an illegal mainland pregnant woman, Wong Fei Fei (Mandy Wong 黃智雯), is eating hot pot in a hospital room seemed to bring a real-life situation from last year onscreen. A Hong Kong mother had complained about a mainland mother for eating hot pot in a hospital room, and interestingly, the exact same thing happens in the drama. In the scene, Fei Fei exclaims, “All you Hong Kong people know are to file complaints. Not showing understanding at all.” This starts a heated argument and Fei Fei’s husband later retorts, “You Hong Kong people are of such low quality!”
Mainland netizens were deeply offended in how they were being portrayed in the drama, and stated that Friendly Fire seemed to be anti-mainland China They condemned the producer and scriptwriter and heavily demanded TVB for an apology to be made.
Producer Responds to Controversy
In a telephone interview, producer Man Wai Hung stated that the script was not aimed at shaming the Chief Executive. It only wanted to emphasize the saying of how emperors who violate the law receive the same punishment as commoners. Regarding how the drama may be prohibited to broadcast in mainland, Man Wai Hung said, “Even if that happens, I will not be disappointed. I am from a Hong Kong broadcasting company, and I want more freedom in my creativity.”
Source: ihktv.com
This article is written by Shirley for JayneStars.com.
I think this drama was just trying to be realistic LOL. No need to apologize. The world isn’t perfect.
I am 100% perfect but my friends sees I have a lot of weakness, anyway I ignore them becoz I M 100% Perfect-10/10
No one is 100% perfect,ever!!
Are you GOD?
selfconfidence is good but too much will make you blind
lol @9394967
Well everyone has their own opinion about different things, maybe his/her definition of perfect is different.
“I am from a Hong Kong broadcasting company, and I want more freedom in my creativity.””
Don’t use the excuse of creativity to offend people, you hongkie. I am not from HK or from China, but i feel offended too. I think it is pretty low class for a producer to purposely portrayed others as inferior, especially the part where Mandy Wong eat water melon seeds on a bus. It only makes HK people look cheap, insensitive, and attitude of superior complex.
Do you really think HK people are all that cultured yourself???
Have you been to HK? If not, I suggest you check it out first before calling HK people no class.
I am glad the show stick it to those Mainlanders. They are nothing but locusts.
Like this also want to fight ?
Well said, stick it to them. If the mainland Chinese dare to do it in public, at least admit to it. Feign a high n mighty attitude is so fake!!
I almost tripped over a mainland woman’s wheel-suitcase in Tsim Sha Tsui. I was walking while listening to my music when she hurriedly walked past me for some reason and, well, her suitcase tangled my legs for a second and I almost literally “X街”.
Mainlanders don’t do this in China. Well, I suppose they do, but they feel more free to do it in HK because:
1. They’re tourists, what the hell do they care if they piss off HKers, they can’t do anything.
2. They look down on us because they know they can play the “whatever, China owns HK anwyays” card.
3. They have money
I’m not racist or prejudice to Chinese mainlanders, but their conduct and manner is downright rude, behaviour I condemn if it were from any race.
HK people has a history of looking down on mainlanders, right from your 1980s dramas starting with Ah Chan in ‘Man in the net’ till now, If they are not beggars, they are hired killers, robbers, prostitutes etc.
Don’t deny. You are not superior. You are just like pests, with TVB fa dans and siu sangs going to China to earn big bucks, and even that, you guys want to use the ‘derogatory’ term of saying they go ‘dig gold’, turning a positive element into negative.
Sigh! HK folks. And now, you love a drama that ‘eats human flesh’ so much, aka ‘When heaven burns’ Totally weird and no class.
WTF dude! Have u even come to HK and see how mainlanders act?! They don’t even have basic manners dude! The mainlanders are the ones that have no class. Get your fact right!
@No Class
Yeah, because China is a shining goddamn beacon of morality.
Fake eggs, exploding chairs, cleaning vegetables in sewerage, corrupt politicians, virtually non-existent piracy laws, kidnapping and prostitution, smuggling goods form HK to China to sell.
I can go on.
And hey, this criticism isn’t unfounded. And hey — no-one’s perfect, but if you’re trying to victimize China and put down HK at the same time while ignoring your faults, then you’re not doing the right thing.
I just want to say, we’re all Chinese (since ’97 anyways), we should all get along but taking liberties like eating on the MTR, pooping on the streets and cluttering the “Seung Shui” line MTR is a problem.
@No Class: And now you are attacking people’s like for a TV series. Really? I’m sorry but just because people like a particular series that you may or may not like doesn’t mean they’re ‘totally weird and no class’.
there should be no shame in displaying what is the truth. the mainlanders hide behind a guise of “face”, trying to preserve it by acting nice and basically lynching everything that is portraying them in a true light. i see no problem in illustrating the truth. and how is portraying HK CE Leung Chun Ying in a bad light false? he was elected to power through a predetermined circle of electors. adding to his more screwups in recent news, it does not come strange seeing this reflected in TV. TV should reflect the values of the current society, not be undeveloping and stalled. if you say don’t portray people in a inferior light, maybe then you should tell those people to stop behaving in such a way.
You really need to come to HK to see how the mainlanders behave. They talk loudly, eat and drink on the MTR when they are not allowed to, and leave their thrash behind. They cut queue and rush for seats. I have seen these conduct personally so I don’t see how the mainlanders could be offended when they and their compatriots truly behave this way!
Agree with Primrose. I’ve witnessed the uncivilised conducts before and while I was visiting HK as a tourist. But not all mainlanders are like that of course.
In any case, I think it’s just entertainment. There are so many western shows that used non fiction situation as inspiration for their production, I can’t see why the producer should be deny his creative right to do so in the series. TVB should not apologise or they will give CTI a tag line for CTI claims to be a truly HK TV station!
I remember when Hong kong beat China in1986 world cup qualify match 2_1 the hong konger celebrate like thry win theworld while the mainlader chinese riot ,well HK actually prefer british rule not those chinaman rule ,chinaman shall stop this drama if the fell this drama offend them ,that alll.and chinaman shall post this compain inasianfinest forum or eastbound88 forum,not here.
No class,you shall post your commment in eastbound88 forum,not here,that forum is for chinaman .
Hahaha probably you have stayed in your cave for too long and doesn’t know Hong Kong at all. Do us a favour, come for a visit before calling the producer low class. Air fares are pretty cheap now.
No Class: Your name suits you perfectly I.e no manners, no class, an all rounder of nothing.
U are correct… Thats just how they are…spitting all over the place… they do the same even when they have been in England for years… no manners or wat!!
Just tell them to get alife and the series is only a drama…even the royal family get bad news here in the UK so wats the big deal!!!
if mainland china weren’t so HAT YAN JANG and like that then people won’t have a negative view towards china people. they bring it on themselves if they didn’t abuse the system in Hong Kong, we wouldn’t be like that towards them. mainlanders are allowed to abuse no matter what but Hong Kong people can’t take a poke at them. mainlanders need to sort their priorities out.
No Class, I like your post!!
I know HK people like to be part of the British b/c Europe is an expensive country and that would make them look good but they have to accept that they are still Chinese after all. I am so surprise that alot of HK people can’t speak English which I expected them to know somewhat okay since the British used to rule the country.
HK people always think they’re all that and always like to show off but alot of them are stingy when it comes to money. I’ve been to HK more than 5 times, I stop going since 2005 and would never want to again. I have relatives there so I used to go b/c of force (no choice). I HATE visiting HK, the people are super rude. At the mall, they always follow you around in the store and every time you try to touch their merchandise for a long time and don’t buy, they give you attitude. They are so stereotype, if they know you are foreigner, they try to rip you off. I live in the USA, I just think older generation were just brought up that way. I get pushed by old chinese people in the USA too like on the bus. I’m also chinese but from America. I just don’t understand why HKers always have to look down on mainlanders. HK people also go to China to do/open business so why they get so mad when mainlanders go to HK to give birth or visit. I’ve seen HK people in the USA spit, dig their teeth while they eat in the restaurant, put their feet on the chair. Come on, HK people are rude too. This happens everywhere not only HK. Also, HKers also try to come to the USA as an international student then try to get green card/passport from the USA. What difference does that make?? I also know HKers come to the USA to give birth so the child can give citizenship to the family. Any people is like that, some with good manner and some with bad manner. What I know alot of the time is when HK people say those “Tai Luk Yan” (mainlander) it’s always bad stuff like talking down to them. China is actually a growing country and wealthy. I think China is a better country for touring since it is so huge and the scenery is amazing. HK is small and boring but they want to make it like it’s so awesome.
U r from china aren’t u?
I’m from USA, my mom is from HK
I’m sorry, saying that since HK people go to China to do business should make it OK that Chinese women come down to give birth is sign of absolute idiocy.
I’m wondering if you been to other parts of china? I’m not arguing just curious!
“every time you try to touch their merchandise for a long time and don’t buy, they give you attitude.”
Shopkeepers giving people attitude and look down on poor people. Hmm. I remember seeing this depiction many times in TVB series and those snobbish shopkeepers are depicted as HK citizens.
So, TVB series does not only target Mainlanders.
It’s just a series it’s for entertaining purposes only. It’s realistic like how murder, rape, abduction happen in series.
Guess ppl are never satisfied. Makingma huge deal out of the little things
I’m not from HK and I’m in HK just for the holidays. I was at the metro station and a woman from mainland pushed me so I pushed her again. She pushed me for the 2nd time and started scolding me in mandarin. Who the hell does she thinks she is? No manners at all. A week ago I was at the Ocean Park with a few friends. We were pushed so much by the mainland tourists. Is that their culture? They don’t have any manners. They smoke and spit in an amusement park. So disgusting. I don’t think the drama has offended anyone. It’s just how they are.
That’s nothing. I have seen their kids doing #2 in HK Disneyland. They don’t even bother to use the toilets.
Are you serious? That is gross… You mean they do #2 on the streets???
Yes! Want to see pictures?
They actually have photos too? You must be kidding me…
I have heard mainlanders are VERY rude… Some told me that they think it is ok and acceptable for them, but it is not acceptable for people from other cultures and countries. I wonder if that is one of the reasons why people look down on Mainlanders??
one mainland man in Causewaybay did trow cigaret on me when i just walking
It’s true. My cousin was in Ocean park n Disneyland n they got pushed n shoved out of the queue for the rides. Didn’t tell them off coz she can’t speak any Chinese n was in shock at how rude n crass they were!
It happened to me when I was in HK Disneyland last year and some other tourist spot as well.
They push, they cut queue and basically not following the law. They’re just rude and ignorant.
Now I’m in Singapore, and due to their strict law, they have no choice to abide it as well , however still heard news of them throwing rubbish down from their HDB flat.
They dont care about the laws. They’ll still throw.
They think they r the most supreme and everyone has to bow to them, like the recent incident of the bus drivers going on strike. I’m glad the sg govt didnt stoop down to beijing and punished them for breaking the law.
I like the show because its true. Rather than a drama with a totally untrue storyline right.
even in sg, they do things like cut your queue at the taxi stand!
why are they so offended when they really act like this? i can understand why they are disliked in hk where hongkongers have to face their rude attitudes everyday!
I was vacationing in Beijing a few years ago with my parents and was lining up to use the public washrooms in one of the tourist attractions when a lady started pushing my mother. She pushed once and we let it go but she did it again which upset me so I turned around and spoke to her loudly and sternly in English telling her to stop shoving my Mom. Once she heard that I spoke English she appeared to be surprised and I guess I took her off guard and she didn’t push again. She was just plain rude and obnoxious. I’m guessing she was a local because she spoke in Mandarin to her fellow friends. This was my only unpleasant encounter with Mainlanders and just because of it, they left a deep impression with me.
Even when they are not in china they are rude as hell! Truth being told everyone know that Chinese people are rude and ignorant people! Even though my friend is Chinese she hate them. She knows they are ignorant people that have no manners. They are so embarrassing, they don’t care about anyone but themselves!
Why apologize when is the truth? So they have to apologize for showing the truth to the world?
Mainland ppl don’t watch the series then. No need to apologize. You guys do go to Hong Kong to give birth tho.
I see no reason why TVB should apologise. It is the way it is. It is not offensive considering the fact that in this series HK people also commits murder, etc. So why not apologise to ALL or not apologise at all.
right, its just a tv serie. and in real world there are always good and bad people in any race/country.
I hope this does not turn into a political issue. The mainland Chinese should just ignore the “insinuations” and there shouldn’t be any trouble. It’s only a story and could be anything, so, feigning ignorance ought to be fine.
Nothing wrong depicting the real portrayal of Mainland Chinese ppl. They are loud, rude, obnoxious, jump queue, dirtied the place n have the ego to think they are the greatest in the world. No ppl like them as migrant! Standards drop wherever they go.
They are loud, rude, obnoxious, jump queue, dirtied the place
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Agree. Just came back from a trip in China (Shanghai, Hangzhou ……. to Suzhou) and the people there were very rude, obnoxious, loud, never lining up anywhere.
Mainlanders are only upset cause its the truth. I’m Chinese born in Canada so I have no ties to Hong Kong. But even I find people from mainland China rude and ignorant. They really need to learn some basic manners.
Agree with your post. We can easily tell in Canada if a Chinese person is from Hong Kng or Mainland China, just based on their fashions, manners and cultures.
i think the most tourist from mainland china are rich people from corrupted official or businessmen,who looks down on hk citizens.
I’m from Canada too 🙂 My experience with people from Mainland China (Mandarin-speaking) is that they talk so loud in the public library. The women allow their kids to go run around and play in the library where others are trying to study and read. One kid ran and bumped into me, but had no manners, no apology. So sad, they don’t set the right examples for their kids.
They describe exactly how mainland people act in Hong Kong JUst perfect! Love this drama!
I know there’s some dispute about the portrayal of mainlanders in the TV series (which I think is fine, for entertainment purposes only and should not be taken so seriously) but really, why are you guys trashing and making prejudice comments about the entire mainland population ? We’re all human and all have flaws and live in different environments, why are you guys so judgemental ? Obviously different people from different regions are going to act differently. Really, you guys need to calm down.
Everyone is calm.
We are just giving out opinions based on our own experience.
im chinese too but i feel not so familiar with mainland chinese cos i cant understand mandarin hihi, at least try to behave yourself if you are in other people’s house.
I think it’s the reaction in respondse to the mainland’s reaction. No one would post and say anything about mainlanders being rude here and there if it wasn’t for the mainlanders to balloon everything up. I actually think most posters here are quite calm and tame, you needs to learn the difference between angry poster and stating the fact/opinion poster
Clearly everyone here is pounding on the main landers and over generalizing everything. I don’t understand how that is being calm ? Attacking a certain group of people is calm ? Evidently China is a large populated country with people that can not afford much. Which means no education, therefore manners are obviously not taught and must learn from what they see through their parents. China is a poor country with some areas being richer. How do you expect such a mass population to all have manners ? We see it as something that is expected in everyone, but for most mainlanders , they are busy trying to find anything that will help them survive or gardening. You guys honestly can’t expect much more from people who have such difficulty getting through life. Be nice, everyone you know is going through a tough fight.
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Somebody completely missed the point about fact/opinion poster. Btw, I have sympathy for those struggle in life but we’re clearly talking about the ones who can afford to travel, tour or immigrate here. You’re telling me they can afford all that and not have a decent education?
Secondly, education does not equal manners. When you show manners, it’s similar to a sign of respect for your fellow man. You can be uneducated and still be a humble person who shows respect towards someone else. Having no education is not an excuse.
Of course, this doesn’t apply to the whole populace. I’ve met some Chinese mainlanders who are poor but their families saved up enough money for them to get a decent education here in Canada and they’re good people overall. They respect the rules we have here and conduct themselves in their best behaviour as if they’re visitng somebody’s house.
The ones we’re talking about is clearly the mass majority that has been caught on video, etc. So it’s overgeneralizing because it happens alot and pretending it didn’t happen obviously won’t work here. This isn’t even just about HK, the world doesn’t think too highly of China either and being on par or worse with world opinion on America isn’t pretty.
Don’t get me started with these mainlanders Chinese who immigrated here in da USA, they really have disgusting manners, they don’t say excuse me. In a crowded streets, always pushing around, picking their nose, bad breath, bad clothes, etc. Hong kong as well as many capital industrial cities in China can not cope with their manners. It’s the damn truth, you red china.
Why would anyone need to apologize for portraying something that is really happening on a “TV DRAMA” ? “Don’t use the excuse of creativity to offend people, you hongkie.” Are you kidding me? Don’t get your panties tied up in a bunch because you know it is true. Using the race card to defend for your own lack of class is probably all you can do. And remember this is just a tv show. We wouldn’t have anything to watch if there were no bad guys.
Dramas perpetuate stereotypes that many people may not agree with. The best thing one can do is be aware of these stereotypes and understand that they do not apply to everyone of a particular group.
I find this argument fruitless as some people from both the mainland and Hong Kong do contribute to their respective stereotypes leading to further generalizations. As unfortunate as it is, all it takes is a few bad experiences with people from a particular group for a stereotype to form.
If something in the drama really irks you, don’t watch it. I personally don’t believe anyone from this drama should apologize for anything. If it is really that offensive, let the ratings do the talking.
The scriptwriter is just poking fun at some current issues and stereotypes, not trying to be offensive. Geez, people do sensitive nowadays.
Personally, mainland china aren’t just only rude in Hong Kong; I’m from Australia, and they also do the same things if they were at Hong Kong.
I think it is their culture and upbringing. People become too wealthy so quickly. It will take them a few generations to change if they have a urge to change at all.
right,its a question of mentality and also how you have been raised up by your parents and how they teach you at school.
sandcherry, well said. Very true because people became wealthy so quickly , they became almighty and arrogance.
I just came back from Hong Kong last week. I feel both Hong Kong and China peoples are rude.
Actually,from my experience, some of the HK people may be arrogant but most of the people from China are just, plain ill-mannered.
It depends, I did encounter many rude idiot in China, Hong Kong, Macau even Taiwan but I do meet a lot nice people in this 4 places.
Everywhere in this world there are rude people including 2012 friendliest country in the World Cayman Island(1st) Canada(3rd) Malaysia (10th)
Surprise China rank 14th
Actually, the “Friendliest Countries in the World” list you have mentioned is based on several factors of how a country is “friendly” to expats. Eg. tax savings, disposal income, expat welfare, schools, etc.. It’s not surprising that an expat living in China would have more benefits than they do on the same amount of income they would receive in their home countries. In fact, some of the descriptions mentioned that they found it hard to integrate into the local communities, and mainly mix within the expatriate community.
If we are looking for friendly people, and not countries, look elsewhere.
thanks Nicole
Malaysia is kind but corrupted very badly..
Which country isn’t corrupted and which isn’t populated with rude people? It is just whether you have the fortune and misfortune of meeting one.
Funn is right. There are no governments in this world which are not corrupted.
There is no “not corrupt”, but there are definitely “less corrupt” and “more corrupt”
Well said Nicole!
Funn lim- I agree everyone country does corrupt but Malaysia is to the extreme. Especially in Sarawak. I know that I am from there.
*every country. Sorry typo,.. paiseh!
that’s right, corruption in malaysia is very bad, the prime minister (najib)announced that in year 2013 all companies listed under the tun razak stock exchange get tax exemption for 10 years, why?
think, to encourage commerce. Unless it is for specific company with specific people. I am not saying Malaysia is not corrupted, but it is not the most corrupted. Some may not be outwardly corrupted, like USA but look a the sorry state of their gun controls and you know, lobbyist is behind it and this in itself is corruption.
Perhaps Tibet is not corrupted? No? India is as corrupted. Question is does corruption stand in the way of justice? That will depend.
There are corruption in the face and corruption in the dark. Generally, the one is the face is the one most ppls notice and think its more corrupted than the one in the shadow, why? Because if they do it in the broad daylight, they think its ok, and therefore go on corrupt in every sense they could. While the one in the shadow show that at least they know its bad and trying to hide it, and they can’t just corrupt on everything.
In that sense, obviously Malay seem more corrupt than USA, anyway, no one said Malay is most corrupted, they just said the corruption in Malay is bad
The younger generation in HK piss me off. I’m talk under-20s maybe.
There was a young couple hugging at the doors of the MTR and people had to walk around them to get off. That pissed me off.
That’s just immaturity, nothing to do with nations. Go anywhere in the world, and you will find the same couples draped over each other.
Maybe. I don’t know.
I just don’t like kids.
And I’m only 24.
Lol.
This happens everywhere not only HK
You mean those that have “gong zhu bing”??
I agree. Hong Kong people are rude too.
I agree with you 100%. The only difference between HKs and “big greens” is thanks to the British influence hks know how to package themselves a little better…but bottom line it’s all same sh&* different smell. To me HKs are worst because they know better, as least with “big greens” what you see is what you get. Either way, I’m glad I don’t have neither of them as neighbors…because they don’t take care of their property & they’re so unfriendly.
Why need to apologize when TVB is just projecting the facts?
It’s just a story guys, chill.
No need to apologize. Chinese manlanders should watch and learn from this drama. It’s the truth so why do we need to hide it?
the mainlanders make good points about deserving an apology after all hong kong offended them by umm, well ah…hum..and then there was.., wait what? They watch the show out of their own free will then they get mad then all of a sudden tvb needs to isue them an apology? that’s like running into a wall face-first and then demanding the wall to issue an apology
Lol, and the wall must be thinking ‘you deserve that broken nose xD consider that my apology xD
oh come on, just watch the god dam series and move on.
Why must the scriptwriter of producer must apologise? This drama is meant to be to an entertainment. So just enjoy it
Jack Neo the famous film director always poke fun on Singapore govt and their citizens. I never heard of the Singaporean govt told him to apologise
Malaysian and Singaporean always made fun on each other so are the Aussies and Kiwis.
But when meet each other, mutual respect always there.
We can keep making fun of them if we apologize afterwards right?
I mean, that’s a fair deal.
If TVB apologise to all theses mainlander China ppl, i will look down on TVB for bowing down. Mainlander Chinese should learn their manners before going out of their house!
I’m glad that the producer stood his ground. This is making a mountain out of a molehill.
My salute to TVB for bringing HK people grievances about those mainlanders to the small screen. Hope someone will be ‘brave’ enough to make a full length movie, no need to research for material those pests are everywhere.
The mainlanders are sour puss locusts. The producer is potraying the truth and should be applauded. HK audience are all supporting and praising the producer and TVB now for their brave stance in potraying the reality in this series. Mainlanders have no manners and always let their children do no 2 in public and spit everywhere. Gross!
The no manners mainlanders are afraid of the truth. Nobody forces you mainlanders to watch HK series d******.
totally agreeee man!
if mainland china weren’t so HAT YAN JANG and like that then people won’t have a negative view towards china people. they bring it on themselves if they didn’t abuse the system in Hong Kong, we wouldn’t be like that towards them. mainlanders are allowed to abuse no matter what but Hong Kong people can’t take a poke at them. mainlanders need to sort their priorities out.
No offence but there are two types of MAINLAND CHINESE. The Cantonese and the Mandarins. Even though Guangzhou is slowly turning into a mandarin city . . seriously though some MANDARINS have no class. I mean some Cantonese people are like that but many of the mandarins I’ve met display similar traits. They push and shove, lack manners and they definitely don’t know how to speak elegantly. My family ‘s from Guangzhou and I hate it when people define us “no class” . Not everyone from Mainland is like that and it’s important to note what kind of people they are.
Well people from Hong Kong did migrate from the Guang Dong province but honestly, every society has the “bad” and “good” people. It’s the same thing when people say HKers are rude. It’s only a portion of the population whereas MY family and relatives are well-mannared.
I agree with you 100%. It really is not fair to hate all mainlanders because of some people’s actions. My ancestors too are from guang Zhou and I defiantly do not like people calling them “rude” or “manner less”. It’s evident they had to live through different times where education was not affordable. How do they expect them to learn manners without being taught ?
I live in the UK but often go to Hong Kong during the holidays. There was one time i went over to Beijing from Hong Kong for a few days and people there are DAMN RIGHT RUDE!
They have no manners whatsoever and every day i witnessed someone spitting in the street, people giving us dirty looks because we’re not one of them, i cant even express how much i wanted to smack some of them in the face at times. After this trip i swear i am never stepping foot into China again.
Alot of them who move to the UK to study should seriously abide by our rules because they’re in our country, some of them are just complete idiots, many of them cant even speak a word of english and obviously bought their way to university!!!!
I think it costs £15k per year for foreign students… It’d be a complete waste if you can’t even understand the lectures (I remember I had to keep translating for this girl back in school – in Canto anyway), but people seem to think it looks better on your CV if you’ve studied here in the UK. Or North America.
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Aaanyway~ There seems to be an awful lot of bashing here in this post…
Its a shame because China is an amazing and beautiful country, with such a rich history. I agree that mainlanders gives chinese a bad name, but this is only a small portion and some are actually really polite and nice.
Agreed !!!
It’s a known fact that HKers don’t like the mainlanders too much…And why the hell are they complaining. HK should be able to express their creativity! Look at Hollywood, they make fun of different cultures ALL THE FREAKING TIME.
Why should they be offended when it’s the truth? They are kinda portrayed similarly in Mediacorp dramas.
This is not the 1st tv series/movie that make fun of mainlanders. Some mainlanders are embarrassing, dirty, and has no shame. Oh well, never been to Hong Kong or China before. Mainlanders just calm your sh*t down cuz its not cute at all.
I’m singing Michael Jackson “we are the world”
Better run bcoz too hot here..
Seriously guys, we can’t just stereotype people. Sure, many Mainlanders are rude, but there are well-mannered people. HKers can be rude too, but there are well-mannered people as well! There are good and bad people everywhere you go. Everyone’s bringing up their past experiences of poorly-mannered people from whereever, but who hasn’t encountered one of those situations?
I personally don’t see this drama to be controversial in any aspect, cuz it’s just for entertainment purposes and since it’s based in HK, portraying some Mainlanders that way just makes it more realistic. Same thing, in many dramas from the Mainland, they portray people from other places to be rude and obnoxious just the same. Goshhh people these days have nothing to complain about. And I find that chief executive thingy even more lame !
Do you even follow the news?
The chief exec is a sock puppet.
i don’t see how the dialogue in the drama has anything to do with him though. It’s like ppl are just complaining cuz there’s nothing they can think of. Mentioning the “chief exec” does not mean mentioning the leung chun ying person. It’s not shaming him at all…
I know HK people like to be part of the British b/c Europe is an expensive country and that would make them look good but they have to accept that they are still Chinese after all. I am so surprise that alot of HK people can’t speak English which I expected them to know somewhat okay since the British used to rule the country.
HK people always think they’re all that and always like to show off but alot of them are stingy when it comes to money. I’ve been to HK more than 5 times, I stop going since 2005 and would never want to again. I have relatives there so I used to go b/c of force (no choice). I HATE visiting HK, the people are super rude. At the mall, they always follow you around in the store and every time you try to touch their merchandise for a long time and don’t buy, they give you attitude. They are so stereotype, if they know you are foreigner, they try to rip you off. I live in the USA, I just think older generation were just brought up that way. I get pushed by old chinese people in the USA too like on the bus. I’m also chinese but from America. I just don’t understand why HKers always have to look down on mainlanders. HK people also go to China to do/open business so why they get so mad when mainlanders go to HK to give birth or visit. I’ve seen HK people in the USA spit, dig their teeth while they eat in the restaurant, put their feet on the chair. Come on, HK people are rude too. This happens everywhere not only HK. Also, HKers also try to come to the USA as an international student then try to get green card/passport from the USA. What difference does that make?? I also know HKers come to the USA to give birth so the child can give citizenship to the family. Any people is like that, some with good manner and some with bad manner. What I know alot of the time is when HK people say those “Tai Luk Yan” (mainlander) it’s always bad stuff like talking down to them. China is actually a growing country and wealthy. I think China is a better country for touring since it is so huge and the scenery is amazing. HK is small and boring but they want to make it like it’s so awesome.
I think u r missing the point. If someone was doing a drama portrait how rude a HK person is, they don’t go and QQ on forum and boycott that series. Also, the Chinese person that was rude to you on the bus, is he even HK? I guess not, as u said Chinese rather than HK person.
Another thing, follow you in a store knowing you a tourist isn’t freaking stereotype, they just know which customer they can make money off. Yes, it’s annoying, but every sale person do it when they see a tourist in any Asian country, not just HK ppls.
Another thing, I’m not HK or Chinese but I know Chinese look down on HK ppls, and so HK ppls feel they have every right to look down on Chinese ppls. There is no one side here, no one is a saint, if you want to scream at HK ppls for not doing nice thing, go scream at Chinese ppls, too.
And stingy, actually I know a lot of HK ppls would do equal shouting, like I do 1, you do the next, pretty sure most mainlanders would not do it as they think ppls should just be nice to them. I understand its a culture thing, if you are not brought up with it, you might be too naive to realise you are not doing the right thing. And if you know ppls in your circle is stingy and still shout them, then you are just an idiot -.- also, obviously china is better for touring, if the size of china isn’t a good clue for you in comparation with HK, then there is something very wrong with china.
I’m sorry but your post is as ignorant as the mainlander’s post who think everyone should apologise to them if a wind brushes their way
HK people is not perfect! I bought a LV belt in HK and the sales person freaking give me a bigger size, I paid and left without checking. When she handed me my bag, she gave me a very suspicious look – no wonder there go my $400. Also, the following around the store, I don’t mind about that, but the part that if you look at it too long then they give you attitude.
HK is just dirty in general. Look at the restaurants in HK –it’s so dirty too and customer service it’s very poor with no manners sometime.
My post – I’m not on either side. Based on the comments, the Hkers offended themselves too. Not all HK people are good people, every nationality has good and bad but HK people always say mainlanders are bad. I want to point out if HKers think of mainlanders like that when they are the same way. They stereotype the mainlanders b/c they take up the hospital space to give birth, they label mainlanders as dirty and make them feel like all of mainlanders are prostitute. There are prostitute everywhere and look at the “lady street” in HK. Isn’t this always in HK people’s mind? The Hk people go to China to open business then it’s okay and even TVB stars go there to film now too but when Mainlanders go to HK to visit or give birth then they get pick on. My mom is from HK but I call myself Chinese. HK, China still equal Chinese.
The same as I’m not on either side, but as much as hk look down on mainlanders, mainlanders look down on everyone, including hk is what I’m saying. And i never said hk was perfect, im just saying alot of these bad treatment/stereotype are built over time base on each part.
You said mainlanders gets bad treatment in hk, but I’m sure hk don’t get much better treatment in mainland either -.- and I understand the attitude bit from the sale person, again, I experience it myself many time, even got kicked out of the shop for looking too long w.o an intention to buy, but that could happen anywhere, not just hk. And most Asian country is dirty when it comes to restaurant, what I’m saying is if u think hk restaurant is dirty, so r the Chinese one and other in other Asian country, china is no more superior and hk is no more worse than china. Therefore, mainlanders should just chill when there are a few scenes making fun of maybe a small percentage of their population.
Everyone knows its the truth. Not like the scriptwriters made up the scenarios. They actually happened. I hope TVB portrays more of these mainlanders trying to take advantage of HK’s governmental system. They need to realize it’s more widespread than people think. It’s not even discriminating mainlanders, only those who have no manners. Ask any citizen of Chinese cities like Guangzhou, Shanghai, Nanjing, etc and they will all agree that those people are rude and obnoxious.
Merry Christmas to you all!
LOL you too!!
There are rude and nice people everywhere but I guess it is just more common in some countries than others…
TVB just runs out of story line – TVB shows always redundant, most of the time I can just guest and know the story already by just watching a few episodes. In the past, they always make the scripts about mainlanders illegally escape to hk for work in a construction field, or about mainlanders being prostitute, then now it’s about coming to HK to give birth. TVB shows are so boring, I miss the old days where I could watch old drama over and over because it was well written.
How can you say them taking advantage of the system… is there a limit… if so… okay, then change the system, make the law that mainlanders aren’t allowed to enter HK, or give limit. About Littering— okay make the law that liter will be fine for whatever dollars. About giving birth — state in the law they are not allowed to. Like in Singapore gums aren’t allowed and even foreigner are not allowed to chew gum. In America – we allow to enter Canada and vice versa, and I don’t hear us calling each other big names.
Blame HK government system, oh and don’t HK benefits by making profit from their hospital visit, they also spend money in HK on food, lodging, transportation and etc. I was in HK before 1997 and the country was already dirty. Who say HK is a clean place? Look at how they sell meat in the fleece market. They just hang the meat up in hot weather and not even refrigerated or keep it cool. Don’t say other people are dirty when they their environment/pollution is bad. A lot of the restaurants aren’t clean either. If the law allows them then that’s not taking advantage. If people have problems with this then I think they should voice this to the government or TVB should make a film to get the government attention lol that gives TVB to design new drama with new plots.
HKers go to USA and Canada to get citizenship too. Look at the amount of HKers in Vancouver, Canada. Is that breaking the system??? Why always stereotype the mainlanders. TVB stars shouldn’t go to China to film then and HK people shouldn’t go to China to open business. How would you like it when people talk negative about you?? Would you speak up and defend yourself?? This means there’s no right or wrong that China got defended.
Yes, have the rights to freedom in creativity — Don’t forget HK is still China. When Hk people make fun of China, it does make the mainlanders embarrassed/upset (that’s what HK people want) but do HK know that the world can just laugh at HKers because it’s the same nation. HK really needs to accept that they are Chinese and it’s part of China, NOT BRITISH. Hollywood movies hardly ever make film that mocks other countries. In the USA, black people has a big history but we don’t make fun of them in the public or on movie even though we know from heart. We don’t even talk about religions because it’s just wrong. Asian in general is well known as expert at gossiping (bak qua), selfishness and inconsiderate.
HK people don’t deny that they are Chinese. They just don’t like the communist party (unfortunately, mainlanders bear the brunt of this when they go to hk because of their rude and arrogant behaviour about how mighty ‘China’ is). And who can blame them when the PRC has such a sketchy past…
“HK people don’t deny that they are Chinese.”
Most of them don’t. But most of them also don’t call themselves Chinese. Btw, I’m not from China or HK.
Hollywood never makes fun of other countries??? No, they just make fun of other races (especially asians) but thats alright because they are americans and USA is the land of the free and blah blah blah…..
Truly agree with you, azndoraemon. Some of these Hongkees or ex-hongkees are just too shallow and naive, to think that they are a better bred than others. They don;t want other to stereotype or discriminate against them, but they openly prejudice against others, as showns by many comments here. I’ve encountered many Hongkees in Australia, for them to be critical of mainlanders is just calling the kettle black too.
“Hollywood movies hardly ever make film that mocks other countries.”
You sure about that?
“In the USA, black people has a big history but we don’t make fun of them in the public or on movie even though we know from heart.”
I often read comments/complaints on message boards about Hollywood movies stereotyping the Blacks, Asian, Hispanic etc.
“We don’t even talk about religions because it’s just wrong. “
Passion of Christ? The Last Temptation of Christ? Little Buddha? Life of Pi?
I was born and raised in the UK, and whenever I see another Chinese person, I get this “I’m judging you” sort of look from them. Am I being paranoid or has anyone felt the same way?
They want an apology because the truth hurts.. But its the truth. Dont like it, dont watch it.
Enough arguing peeps… I’m hungry for some dimsum.
As I was born in Hong Kong and spent most of my childhood in HK before moving to Australia, I’ve experienced so much of the commotion between mainland china and HK. I think you would understand why HK people are really annoyed and pissed off at Mainland tourists who visit HK if you’ve actually been living in HK for some time and know of the lifestyle of HK people. A lot of my friends here who are ABCs wouldn’t be anywhere close to understanding what I and many other HKers think and have experienced. Just a few months ago, I went back to HK and decided to go Disneyland with my family and cousin, we were constantly shoved and pushed in the “Tong Chung” line by mainlanders, especially my younger brother who literally got pushed all the way to the backside of the cabin! No apologies whatsoever. I was so pissed. And also witnessing with my own eyes, mainlanders helping their child poo on the MTR stations. I wanted to throw up it was so disgusting.
During the years of living in Australia, I’ve ony been hearing the mainlanders commotion in HK through relatives and the news, but the past few years whilst I’ve gone back, I’ve experienced so much first-hand experience at how rude and ill-mannered mainlanders are in HK. As a HKer, I know many HK people who can come off as rude and arrogant, but they love HK and follow the rules and basic manners such as letting the people get off the MTR first before stepping in. These basic, basic, rules and manners are not seen in the mainlanders. Not just me, but my friends have told me their “ocean park” stories in which they got pushed out of the lines by mainlanders too!
And these are only some of the many reasons why HKers WANTS to draw a clear line between them and mainland china.
I still maintain that HK people have no class, looking at the comments here, and judging from their crude, rude and downright superiority complex attitude towards mainlanders.
Really pathetic…
And this @dd fella said I am victimising China??? Oh no, you must be darned confused, poor guy!! I am putting down HK but not victimising China. You understand English properly?
Many honkie don’t understand English despite being a century old British colony, China’s standard is way better.
And @azndoraemon, I luv your posts too.
And yes, you people are just weird, likes a ‘man eating’ themed drama, LOL.
LOL we are talking about judging right? Your last line is enough for me to say that you are not much better yourself. Your last line just shows how little knowledge you have about the drama and how quick you are to assume and judge.
NO CLASS — thank you so much for reading my posts and for loving my posts. I love how you came up with the “honkie”. Where do you from?
Honkie– alot of you, your parents or ancestor came from China to begin with. Look at those old/new TVB stars, like for example: Roman Tam (Lo Man), Lisa Wang, Fala Chen, — these people were born in China.
Alot of you call mainlanders or push them down — you probably have a few in the family. How funny is that.
People from China actually are the real smart one and successful people — look at the ones in hollywood –Jet Li, Zhang Ziyi, Lucy Liu…
Honkie — like to act all that, spend money on clothes to dress nice and well groomed but the inside is just empty/plain. — No potential … I have a few HK friends, they are so stingy on food and they say they don’t have to tip in HK so when they eat with me in the USA — they never would tip. How embarrassing is that? I had to tip for them, they said it’s the worker’s job, they get paid from paycheck.
HK PEOPLE DON”T TIPS IN THE USA. This is good manner?
Hk ppls don’t tip in USA because culturally they don’t tip? In Australia, we don’t tip, doesn’t matter where we are from, we are customed to not tip as we believe everyone has been paid fairly unlike America >_> and I can assure you Chinese mainlanders would equally not tipping you in the USA or even more.
Tipping is a custom, just because America has that system doesn’t mean the rest of the world agree with you, and some ppls just don’t like/don’t know or don’t believe in such system.
I know someone once told me that hk ppls work very hard as they believe in work hard reap good reward, and because of that, they don’t like lazy bum, that only open their hand for tip, maybe you haven’t provide good enough service for your tip >_>
And like I said most comments here are quite tame and factual/personal experience, if you can’t accept those facts, you are just showing how ignorant and judgemental you are.
I know in my line of ancestry, there are some blood related with mainlanders, I’m fine with it, but that’s history, how they act now is what matters, you can’t dwell on the past, you can be proud of the past, no one said we are shameful relating to mainlanders, we are saying currently the mainlanders does not show basic manner, when you visit someone’s house, follow the house rule. That’s their old teaching, and if they can’t follow it, who is the low class now -.-
Whether someone like something weird or out of the ordinary, you should respect their choice, you don’t put them down, that is no manner in itself either. Currently, you are showing you are indeed a no class, sir!
Honkie or Hongkie a term used by Singaporean, Malaysian , Australia and NZ. My friend from Hong Kong does not like this calling, to them they consider rude if we call them HongKie. I ask why..they said sound low-class..hahaha
I read your post azndoraemon and practically I hate your post – you called other people stereotype but I believe you are the stereotype one.
Every country has law and regulation and when you visit that country you are abide to them…
I am not talking any Chinese or HKer but Asian in general – 8 out of 10 Asian restaurants are dirty even restaurants in America is dirty too.
As you mention – HK is dirty and they often sell fresh meat at flea market…You are wrong – it’s not flea market – in Asia it is called fresh market – people go to market to get fish, meat, and vegetable to cook for 1 day meal. If it’s dirty or contaminated how come people eat the food and not get sick. Just that and I think you are so ignorant and don’t get the fact straight.
It is just a movie and it’s the truth. No one expect everyone like the series, I might like and you don’t. It just a matter of opinion so don’t go over board and start saying HongKong is a dirty place.
As you mention that HKers are stingy – get the fact right. All Asian are stingy because our money is a hard earn and it’s culture in every Asian countries there is no tip when you eat at the restaurant. Why you need to tip when on the table there is chopsticks, drink, etc…all they do is just bring out the food for you.
That why when you visit another country you need to learn their custom so you don’t embarrass yourself or your host.
Oh WTF! Not all here is from HK and HK people or everyone are rude but under some situations. While mainlanders are just rude whenever and wherever(well not all but majority). 😛
“And yes, you people are just weird, likes a ‘man eating’ themed drama, LOL”
This line alone makes everything you wrote above meaningless.
China has enough of ‘China bashing’ from those ignorant Americans, and now you Hongkies bashed them too, all for nothing except for their uncouth behaviors. What triviality…
That is actually not so bad, considering their background, uplifting from rural to urban in 20 years.
HK in the 60s and 70s is even worse, look at their neighbourhood quarrels and fighting within a flat community.!!!
HK today is still a rude society.
HK always make movies and dramas putting mainlanders in bad light, I don’t see China doing movies belittling HK.
That shows HK has no class, always looking down upon others.
The world looks up to China, they only see HK as a little tiny speck on the entire map.
Wasn’t there a high-ranked “professor” in China who called Hong Kong people dogs?
” A professor at one of China’s most prestigious universities has stirred up a hornets’ nest in Hong Kong after publicly calling residents of the territory “bastards”, “thieves” and “dogs of British imperialists””
And you talk about HK people making movies putting mainlanders in bad light, well what about an educator, a “professor”, saying things that aren’t any better.
First line: China has enough of ‘China bashing’ from those ignorant Americans
Last line: The world looks up to China, they only see HK as a little tiny speck on the entire map.
So….not *everyone* looks up to China, right?
Man, you ultra-Chinese nationalists make me sick. I thought you all embarrassed yourselves thoroughly over the Senkaku thing, but here you are again.
Honkies like to brag but the country isn’t all that. Blaming mainlanders being dirty, what happen to their chicken being poisoned. What about SARS?
There are other places that is alot better. Like Japan – it’s good place and I don’t see Japanese brag about it.
China own HK remember that. If you don’t like them coming to HK the n go talk to the government. or escape to Canada LOL.
SARS started in Guangdong.
Outbreak in south China
Main article: Progress of the SARS outbreak
The epidemic of SARS appears to have started in Guangdong Province, China in November 2002. The first case of SARS was reportedly originated in Shunde, Foshan, Guangdong in Nov 2002, and the patient, a farmer, was treated in the First People’s Hospital of Foshan (Mckay Dennis). The patient died soon after, and no definite diagnosis was made on his cause of death. Despite taking some action to control it, Chinese government officials did not inform the World Health Organization of the outbreak until February 2003. This lack of openness caused delays in efforts to control the epidemic, resulting in criticism of the People’s Republic of China from the international community. China has since officially apologized for early slowness in dealing with the SARS epidemic.[21]
This drama is just reflecting on the HK life and how many HK people see Mainlanders when they are touring in HK. The mainland pregnant women that takes up so much bed space of Hong Kong hospitals is a real and actual current issue that has been happening for the past year or more, and many HK people being unhappy about that is also a fact. So this drama is just reflecting on current issues that are happening in HK and the views and opinions of HK people.
When there are murder cases that happen in real life HK, they are also shown in TVB dramas as well. And this is nothing to do with mainlanders, this is about HK murderers and HK cases. But nevertheless, they are all just reflecting on issues in HK.