Cecilia Cheung and Nicholas Tse Discussing Divorce
Cecilia Cheung (張栢芝)and Nicholas Tse’s (謝霆鋒)5-year marriage took a turbulent turn and the couple may be contemplating divorce! The pair discussed getting a divorce two times in the past; the pair experienced marital strife two years ago. Cecilia often scolded Nic over small matters. Each time, Cecilia used their two sons, Lucas and Quintus, as her weapon in forcing Nic to bend to her wishes. Nic bowed to Cecilia due to his love for their sons. When he realized that Cecilia wanted to have more properties under her possession, Nic changed the ownership title of the properties to reflect Cecilia’s name. Possessing a $500 million (HKD) net worth, Nic’s wealth may be “sucked dry” by Cecilia!
Cecilia Cheung Met with Edison Chen on Airplane
On a Mother’s Day flight from Taiwan to Hong Kong, Cecilia was coincidentally on the same plane as ex-flame, Edison Chen (陳冠希). Forgetting that she had once accused Edison for his hypocrisy as a cat shedding tears over a dead mouse (貓哭老鼠假慈悲), Cecilia took a photo with Edison on the plane.
Allegedly, Cecilia’s photo with Edison provoked Nic’s anger. Nic immediately called his lawyer to have the transfer in property ownership titles halted. Cecilia reportedly attempted to text message Nic on numerous occasions. Nic has ignored the messages and his mind was set on divorce.
Cha Siu Yan Reveals Cecilia and Nic’s Divorce Intentions
Nic’s mother, Deborah Dik’s (狄波拉)good friend, Cha Siu Yan (查小欣), revealed on her radio show the inside scoop regarding Cecilia and Nic’s marital strife. Ms. Cha said, “Allegedly, Nic was not the only person who issued a legal precedent. Cecilia, Lucas, and Quintus moved to Parkview Towers. Nic paid multi-millions in rent for one year.”
Ms. Cha noted that Cecilia and Nic’s marriage was shaky earlier. “When Nic and Cecilia appeared at the Hong Kong Film Awards[in April], they appeared outwardly loving. They were mindful of the overall situation. However, Cecilia over argued over small matters. To subside Cecilia, Nic would change the property ownership titles to Cecilia’s name. They also established a fund and transferred all their money to the fund. The fund’s sole beneficiary was Cecilia. However, Cecilia continued with the arguments while Nic did not counter back. Nic even changed the ownership title of the multi-million dollar (HKD) house he had originally purchased for his father, Patrick Tse, to Cecilia’s name.”
Cecilia’s Film Comeback Induced Frequent Separations
Since announcing her return to the entertainment industry, Cecilia filmed six movies. She earned over $10 million (HKD) in each movie. Since Cecilia’s comeback, she was frequently separated from Nic. Cha Siu Yan said, “After noting that most of the properties were under her name, Cecilia requested stock ownership of Nic’s post-production company. Cecilia appeared to wish to empty Nic’s pockets at once. When I first heard the news, I did not believe it. When they had their first reunification, Cecilia called me and said that she loved Nic very much. If Nic no longer wanted her, she did not know what to do. Five years later, Cecilia has become a complete stranger to me.”
Currently, Nic was filming the promotional clip for his new movie <逆戰>in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Cecilia was filming <影子愛人>Shenzhen.Cecilia’s manager, Emily, did not respond to the divorce rumors. Mani Fok(霍汶希),EEG’s Artist Management Director, did not respond to Nic’s divorce rumors. “I will not respond or comment. Nic will not respond either.”(Was Nic’s work affected?) “He filmed through the night last night.” (How is his mood?) “He is focused on filming; there are many upcoming dangerous scenes.”
EEG Claims Nicholas Tse Did Not Issue Separation Papers
Appledaily reported yesterday that Nic issued legal papers to request a separation from Cecilia. On behalf of Nic, EEG issued a public statement, “I, Nicholas Tse, have never taken the initiative thus far to issue a lawyer letter to Cecilia Cheung requesting separation. The report issued by Apple Daily (on May 30, 2011) contained false reporting about me. I reserve the right to pursue its legal action.”
Excerpt from Orientaldaily.com
Jayne: Cecilia and Nic’s managers’ responses make the marital rumors sound true, which I hope they are not!
Cecilia never appreciated what she has after all the trouble the people around her had been through all these years. Hopefully it’s not true otherwise I really pity the 2 sons & Nic. Imagine growing up with gold-digging sl*tty mom. It’ll sure have a bad impact on the kids.
I really hope that Cecilia treasures what she has instead of taking it for granted. She will regret it if Nic does leave her.I don’t think Cecilia is a gold digger because after she gave birth to her second son, she returned to work as soon as she was able to. It’s not like she just sat there and lived on Nic’s money. I think she is really lucky compared to most people based on her previous history. However, no one knows the whole truth so who knows how true any of this is??
I think she is more insecure than a gold digger. I believe some rumour but not all of it.
Funn,
just curious as to why you think Cecilia may be insecure? Because Nic is always filming and the couple are separated?
If we can agree she is not a gold digger then what she did if true shows her as insecure. I believe this must stem from the Edison chen scandal, where if we were to believe, Nic was ready to leave her but she persuaded him by rumours of her threatening to kill herself. It could be less dramatic. Dont forget Nic is young, successful and good looking, and comes with the reputation of a dutiful son, good husband, great father, so he is a gold mine for younger prettier less scandal ridden girls. And yes they’re almost always apart. So if I were to disbelief rumours of her being a gold digger, then all her actions insisting he transfer titles to her, etc is to make sure the man never leaves her, by making sure she gets hold of his property. I believe these are to bind him out of not greed, not hatred but extreme love, and only the most insecure woman would do that in such a way.
Funn,
Your analysis could be true. If she did insist the transfer in titles, the shared financial assets could make it more complicated to have divorce, but still not impossible. I always saw both of them as equals in terms of career and net worth. Perhaps Cecilia made alittle less during her 5 year hiatus, but her recent filming fees are still high.
It’s still foolish to think that combined assets will make the man stay. If he wants to walk out on a marriage, this will not bind them. Actually, I think spousal financial independence is good. If she wants to give money to brother to open bar or if Nic wants to buy house for dad, they should do that instead of arguing over money. They have enough wealth to share with family.
Hmm…you can also argue that her plastic surgery, which was totally unecessary for her career, may have stemmed from insecurity as well.
I wonder if Cecilia’s constant updates on blog with photos of kids also angered Nic, since he is such an intensely private person. It’s an irony how everyone in Nic’s family, dad, mom, sister, and wife all seem to love attention except himself.
“I wonder if Cecilia’s constant updates on blog with photos of kids also angered Nic, since he is such an intensely private person. It’s an irony how everyone in Nic’s family, dad, mom, sister, and wife all seem to love attention except himself.”
Jayne. You reminded me of this. I remember Nic has once said he didn’t want his son (Quistus was not yet born at that time) to be in the lime light. But, Cecilia seems to love showing her boys off. Lucas even has his own official website and weibo account.
I think perhaps Asian women like to think that controlling a man is by controlling his money perhaps?
I think Nic isn’t that angered by the constant updates of her boys’ pictures. Maybe a cumulative effect of everything but I think perhaps it is her attitude. We are making assumptions here but sometimes a person’s constant need of attention and affirmation of love or constant need to reassure someone can be tiring. From what I can deduce, this may be the situation here because if there’s no rumours of a 3rd party then perhaps it is the behaviour. The woman could be demanding and needy but let’s look at this objectively; maybe she felt Nic didn’t care much, he may be too guarded himself?
Funn,
Because a man with money will spend it on another woman? If he is financially independent, then he can walk anytime? That’s a pretty insecure and pessimistic take on how to control the man in a marriage.
I think women are more emotionally needy and sometimes men cannot meet that need fully. Early motherhood can be especially overwhelming emotionally as well. But men are not stupid; they realize their wives’ conniving ways and resist methods of being controlled. If both of them work hard for the money and they have plentiful resources, they should have right to spend to please themselves as long as it is within responsible means.
If the wife has no source of income, then I understand the need for combining financial assets. Otherwise, independence is better. There is no need to haggle over all the minor personal expenses.
It comes down to trust. If a husband keeps following/stalking the wife or checking her FB page or a wife controlling the money or check the handphone for calls, I believe such a marriage cannot last long. everybody is miserable.
But let me ask you this; do you rather be ignorant? I mean you don’t want confirmation if he plays outside, as long as he comes home on time. I think most women are that way. BUT men won’t tolerate. That’s why it is easier for woman to forgive man for affairs and not the other way around. The woman must thread carefully so as not to undermine his authority or ego or pride as a man must thread carefully so as not to undermine her trust and her security.
Nothing to do with Nic-Cecilia of course.
But yes you’re right. Some women will ask for everything, even during separation more so when they have children so that they secure the children’s future and husband can’t use the money for another woman.
This is not the Cecilia-Nic case.
It is Cecilia’s neediness, if the rumours are true. It could be entirely because of her own inability to accept that she has got happiness, that she feels she can’t take that all for granted and so the need to hold tightly to him but that is counter productive. I am not married but I feel couples should give each other space. If you don’t think your husband is having an affair, don’t take such extreme pre emptive measure because there is always divorce. People might not believe that a marriage can breakdown devoid of any 3rd party influence. Sometimes ownself can destroy own happiness and then blame some other factors because she or he probably doesn’t realise it was her or his own undoing.
Again speculation.
I agree with you Jayne. It is true that sharing financial assets and all will make it more difficult to divorce, but not impossible. If Nic wanted to really divorce her, then nothing can stop him. However, just the fact that he stayed with her even after the scandal broke out shows what a loving and devoted husband he is.
I really agree that financial independence is good in a marriage because you can each have your own income. THen you don’t need to argue about personal expenses. It is good to share money and have some joint accounts, but it is still good to have your own as well.
Cecilia actually had plastic surgery? I don’t feel that she needed it since she already had pretty good features and all. Unless she did it on her body or something. Maybe that is a sign of her insecurity.
I don’t think Nic minds Cecilia sharing the pictures of his kids with everyone. It’s not like the public has not seen them before. He is a celeb himself so it is hard for his kids to stay out of the limelight completely. If Nic loved Cecilia that much then I don’t think he would get mad over something little like that…
Agree with you Funn that trust in a marriage is just so important. A marriage without trust cannot last long at all.
Jealousy is another thing that can break a marriage. Distrust and jealousy can cause a lot of problems that are not even necessary.
Funn,
Cecilia comes across as quite impulsive and passionate. Yes many people want it all, the husband to always provide the emotional feedback for an emotionally needy wife. Even if they have survived past turbulent events in their marriage, even if they have two beautiful kids, Cecilia still wanted to have a film career. Nic is already filming nonstop, with Cecilia’s comeback, it will only mean less time together. If she wished to act, perhaps something less time consuming, such as theater plays would have been better. Although she appears very happy with her kids, child raising can be quite mind numbing because an adult needs to relate to an adult mentally.
Cecilia’s decision to pursue a busy film career after having 2 kids is very, very difficult. Perhaps limit to 1 film per year is more than enough.
Their situation reminds me of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, such a passionate marriage but with kids and busy careers, there are always rumors of splitting.
“But let me ask you this; do you rather be ignorant? I mean you don’t want confirmation if he plays outside, as long as he comes home on time.”
Many people believe what you don’t know will not hurt you. I would rather know and deal with it together. I want honesty in a relationship. If the honesty hurts, well the hurt will pass. If there are yearnings for others, I’ll rather we discuss it in the “Eyes Wide Shut” manner.
I want to know my partner inside-out. I want to know about his past and any questionable ethics. There are some things which are unacceptable in everyone’s book.
In another thread, I spoke about acquaintances of acquaintances, men who slept with prostitutes while they were single. What he did in the past before meeting you, is it excusable? I don’t think so because it is part of the person he is now and his ethics valuation.
HeTieShou,
Although celebrities’ spending habits are more lavish than us, their level of income is able to support it, with plenty of savings leftover. Allegedly, Nic and Cecilia own over a dozen cars and several properties; obviously it indicates that they have enough savings in the bank to purchase these additional assets.
Cecilia had surface veneers done on her teeth and 2 different breast implant procedures. After breaking up with Nic many years ago (while he was involved with Faye Wong), she had her first procedure, which must have been a D cup. Allegedly, many people teased her for her obviously bigger size and then she downgraded to current size. I think she got both procedures done in Korea.
Jayne,
If you are referring to Asian celebs then I can believe it, but not American ones. American celebs really spend big. I remember that one really famous one lost all of this money and had to be on foodstamps(I forgot who it was). I guess Americans like to live for the time being and don’t think about tommorrow.
I heard that Cecilia had her breasts done before but never heard about her teeth. I think all of her other features are natural though right??
Jayne!
Angelina and Brad aren’t married by the way.
“Cecilia comes across as quite impulsive and passionate”
Actually I find her both AND in the past rather arrogant, the way she blamed the media for writing lies about her eating disorder when everyone can see and more. In the end she was and is still to me quite dim witted. A lack of proper education so to speak. I find her, well I found her rather crass and rude at times but after Edison scandal she actually toned down. But I suppose if you’re dim witted you will be dim witted. Not to say stupid but near that.
“What he did in the past before meeting you, is it excusable? I don’t think so because it is part of the person he is now and his ethics valuation”
Everybody comes with a past. Unless his nature is unchanging and not able to change, like you know serial killers, pedophile, etc, I believe everyone is capable of changing. Can a jerk stop being a jerk? A bully stop being a bully? Maybe, if they want to change. Going to prostitutes is in the end for a bachelor rather normal. That’s why prostitutes exist, it is a service industry based on demand. Maybe I don’t want to know, but if I do, and he is a changed man, I wouldn’t begrudge him. However most women will keep in their hearts and come divorce or separation, his past will be an excuse which I find such an act very very offensive. You forgive the man you forgive wholly.
Which is why never ever tell your girlfriend/boyfriend who you dated, who you slept with, etc etc.
Funn,
In every issue of American tabloids, there are rumors that Angelina and Brad are breaking up. Although they are lacking a marriage certificate, their lifestyle is very domesticated and that of a married spouse.
I question the ethics of a man procuring the services of a prostitute. Bacherhood does not equate to procuring services of prostitution. There are other options. Yes everyone comes with a past, but it depends to what extent. Men who seek out prostituion come across as impulsive and self-serving.
If she is doing everything out of insecurity, then that will not be good for her or her marriage. I hope that she can learn to be more secure and relaxed….
I read in Golden Forum that Cha Siu Yan got a lot of bashing in her weibo for her expose.
I also believe that Cecilia is not gold-digging. It’s more an attempt to hold on to Nic. I believe that she really loves Nic. Someone in asianfanatics said that she started falling into the bad girl lifestyle after Nic broke up with her those years ago.
I heard about Cecilia’s bad girl lifestyle too, but I didn’t know it was after Nic broke up with her. I thought it was just her personality and that she has always been quite rebellious. I didn’t follow their news closely before, but why did Nic break up with Cecilia in the first place? Is it to get back together with Faye Wong?
I think Nic was with Cecilia first, if I’m not wrong. I didn’t follow Nic’s news much.
Only recently I know that he has dated Bondy Chiu before and only yesterday I know he has also dated Dai Si Chung’s younger daughter.
i think it goes something like he dated faye wong first, then he worked with cecilia and rumors surfaced (probably a fling) which made faye mad and demanded nic to choose. nic dumped cecilia to get back together with faye..
I’m confused now so actually who did Nic really dated first?
I remember reading a interview were Nic talks about his issue with Cecilia. He said she was a really demanding person who needed constant remainder of his love and attention. I will try and find the article.
I have been a fan of both of them for years and I love them as a couple but Cecilia sometimes does things that make you wonder, like the whole Edison reunion. She denies it and then has no choice but admited after Edison and his management confirm it. I bet Nic wasn’t too happy about it. Although it was a matter of time before they bumped into each other and shows a certain degree of maturity on her part but like Gillian said I would talk to him and move on not take pictures and stuff knowing what a blabber mouth he is and knowing how that could affect Nic remember the asian culture is about face and in her doing that Nic is loosing face in the public eye. She should have said yes I spoke to him and lets move on. I guess that would upset anyone.
Her asking for his money in such a way if true and the Edison thing makes you wonder what her intrusions are. She hasn’t been reported as being seen in Malasya at all since Nic has been there so it looks like she doesn’t want to be with him either where as before she would have been after him like moth to flame. She moving out of the house sends a clear message. I feel bad for Quintus though I’ve hardly seen a picture of them with him, not even on his first birthday in contrast of how she is with Lucas and how they celebrate everything he does and won’t stop talking about him as with Quintus who is always left behind or hardly mentioned. I
don’t know I just wonder what’s going to happened. I hope they work things out they are my fav couple besides Angie and Brad.
It was not a smart move for Cecilia to lie to her teeth like that because the truth will come out sooner or later. Which is why I hate it when artists lie so much since the lies will come back and haunt them sooner or later. In Cecilia’s case, it came right back at her…
I hope you find the article. I want to read it.
Cecilia’s action was quite thoughtless but, I think the media made it worse. The meeting might not be as bad as how the media describe it.
we, Nic fans, just hope he and his sons to live happily. I never expected Pak Chi to be like that, but when money gets in the way then often love can be destroyed. Anyways, Tingfung is just 30, mature enough to handle it and young enough to go on after the separation and find his real love. And come on people, I’m sure both he and Pak Chi really love the kids and will take care of them well, so many kids grow up in separated families, it’s better this way rather than seeing both parents in a forced and miserable relationship. But afterall we can’t be 100 per cent sure about their separation. Let’s just hope the best solution, either divorce or reunification or anything, will be found. And if Pakchi really behaved that way, I think Ting Fung shouldnt be bashed for running out of patience, it seems he has always been patient and forgiving and there are limits to everything, no one likes being a puppet.
“so many kids grow up in separated families, it’s better this way rather than seeing both parents in a forced and miserable relationship. But afterall we can’t be 100 per cent sure about their separation.”
But, Nic’s parents divorced when he was young and he said he has an unhappy childhood and turned rebellious. So, is it really better? I don’t think Nic will divorce easily. He will not want his sons to go through what he went through.
“Anyways, Tingfung is just 30, mature enough to handle it and young enough to go on after the separation and find his real love.”
Maybe his real love is Cecilia since he broke up with Cecilia and after one round got back with her and chose to marry her.
I know what you mean. But don’t you think that this is a different generation and that Nicholas could handle it better than Mr. Tse Yin? I as a daughter of separated family didn’t really suffer…and yes it might be uncomfortable at first but it’s better to have a divorce when you are kids are young and won’t remember, rather than when they are 10+, it is certainly more hurtful. On another note, lets hope for the best to come to the couple, I mean Ting Fung and Pak Chi.
Of course kids will be happier and in a two parent family, but it’s also how the parents handle it. If they are civil to each other and put the kids first, the kids will learn how to adjust… Nic’s parents probably weren’t that great of parents.
Miss China,
It depends on whether Cecilia and Nic truly have irreconcilable differences or whether they are going through typical evolving dynamics of marriage with young kids. If they value the marriage, they should try marriage counseling before calling it quits.
Aside from age, it also depends on how the parent with custody loves the child afterwards. Some single parents are able to provide loving environments for children. Howver, some couples could have nasty divorce and when the children witness that and how the parents intentionally hurt each other, the kids can truly suffer. Also, it depends on the grounds of divorce. Infidelity, domestic violence or more extreme reasons can scar a childhood and truly make you question the sancity of love.
I get the impression that Patrick Tse may have cheated on Deborah Dik simply because Nic seemed to resent his father many years later, even in young adulthood.
“I get the impression that Patrick Tse may have cheated on Deborah Dik simply because Nic seemed to resent his father many years later, even in young adulthood.”
Really??? I had thought it was for a few other reasons which Nic has spoken about in previous interviews:
1. Felt Patrick “sold him off” to EEG when was just 17. I think he was too young to fully understand the implications of signing off 10 years of your youth to a record company, and he has spoken about how Patrick told him (after he signed the deal) that he was “no longer his son as he’s an adult now” and in a way he felt abandoned because of that.
2. Didn’t like how his family had to put up a facade and image for the sake of the media. He has spoken recently about how he now understands that when you’re in this business, there are certain things you need to do which are out of your control (Cantonese expression “yan joi gong wu san but yau gei”)
3. Patrick tends to date significantly younger girls which I’m sure Nic wasn’t crazy about when he was younger.
Bridget,
aside from the reasons you mentioned, I just feel something truly hurtful may have happened between Deborah and Patrick. Due to Patrick’s flirtatious ways and the way Nic tends to side with his mother and spoke so poorly about his father, I personally feel Patrick did more hurtful actions in the past. Just my impression though.
I agree Jayne about Nic always siding with his mother, his mother might have been through a rough time because of Tse Yin, what you said makes lots of sense, saying that from my own experience. As to Nicholas being exposed to the media from a young age, I agree. Watching those old TVB videos about the Tse family, makes me feel so bad, it’s almost disgustingly obvious that they were trying so hard to build a certain image using Nicholas and his sister.
No doubt in my mind Nic never liked his father. I mean you can love someone and not like someone. I believe he thinks his father pushed him into the limelight when he didn’t want to, aren’t there rumours Nic worked to pay off Patrick’s debts? I never see Patrick as a good father in the sense of a hands on father. No doubt he had affairs. But wasn’t he gracious enough to attend his ex wife’s wedding or something? There were a lot of hurt in the past. no doubt. I think Nic resented his father for many many reasons, and I also believe perhaps Cecilia may have helped healed that rift because they all seem closer after Nic got married with Cecilia.
As for airing the truths on air, if they’re truths, the thing is I don’t know who started it, who said what, and why but I feel as a family friend, to say such things in public before the public even got a whiff of any problems shows a lack of concern for this family as a friend. This is like jumping the gun. I find it disrespectful and crass. And if the mother in law authorised the so called expose, which I tend not to belief since surely she would first and foremost think of her son and grandsons first?
Cecilia did broke up with Nic. But they got back together, so I suppose they must have really loved each other.
I hope if the rumours are true, then there are no issues of money or third party which means Cecilia must get help before she ruins her own happiness.
I have been reading about this everywhere and actually feel a little overwhelmed and a bit shocked since not that long ago, Nic said that he loved Cecilia the most and that she as his wife will accompany him until the end. I hope that it was not all just an act to try to cover things up. Husband and wife can divorce down the road, but your parents and children are forever connected to you by blood. Regardless of what Patrick has done in the past, he is still Nic’s father no matter what.
I was just rewatching Tian Long Ba Bu of the 80s last night and it was nice seeing Patrick. My mom was saying how he was perfect to the play the role of DZC since he was with several women and couldn’t stick to one woman. I guess that was how he was always viewed so maybe he did cheat on Deborah in the past. That may be part of the reason why Nic resented his father, but still loves him because that is his father afterall and there is nothing that he can do to change that.
I really hope that he will not end up like his parents, but if that is the way that it has to be then everyone has to accept it. I don’t think it is healthy to stay in a rocky marriage just for the kids.
If Nic could forgive Cecilia for her scandal with Edison years ago, I don’t understand why it’s such a big deal this time. However, I don’t understand why Cecilia would take a photo with Edison in the first place since she didn’t seem fond of him anymore in an interview where she addressed to the public the Edison photo scandal.
I never thought of Cecilia as a gold-digger and still don’t despite the claims made in the article. Agree with Funn who believes that she does it out of insecurity. But I always thought their relationship was stronger than ever after the scandal, no??
If a woman is insecure, even if she’s married to the best husband in the world, she will still feel insecure. It’s internal. I mean, Nic has broken up with her once and Eileen also said 5 years ago, when Nic got back together with Ceci, Ceci has cried and said she really really loves Nic and if Nic dumped her, she will not know what to do.
If my memory recalls correctly, Ceci was really torn up when Nic dumped her, from eating disorders to clinical depression. I think she’s moved beyond that now, and don’t think of her as a gold-digger at all. Deborah Dik and Nic have both mentioned in interviews that Ceci doesn’t dare spend a lot of $ on the credit cards that Nic pays for her even though he keeps telling her to.
Chriselle,
Agree that if Cecilia and Nic could survive the Edison scandal, their relationship should be stronger. But marriage before annd after kids can also greatly change the dynamics in a relationship. They have money for hired help so it helps in relieving some responsibilities.
In 1999 or 2000, while Cecilia, Nic and Faye were involved in love triangle, Cecilia got hospitalized for spinal injury in a failed TVB charity stunt. Nic had his infamous car crash a month later. Cecilia was allegedly in the car behind him at the scene or car crash. Two people locked in near death situations together have an inseparable bond.
I hope they get marriage counseling. Moving out and having too much cool-off time is not good.
Agreed. I get the impression that they truly love each other and hope the divorce rumours aren’t true although I would think it’s normal to have some arguments as a young family that is under constant media scrutiny like them. Hoping it’s more marital arguments rather than to the point of discussing divorce.
Jayne, the truth is I never thought they can last forever. Maybe I am a cynic but nowadays every individual at least have 1 divorce behind them.
@Jayne,
“I hope they get marriage counseling. Moving out and having too much cool-off time is not good.”
What’s wrong with having too much cool-off time?
Chriselle,
Too much cool-off time after a heated argument can make the couple fill in too many gaps in between with unfounded ideas that may hurt the relationship more. Due to their filming schedules, it appears that Nic and Cecilia had very time together in the last 6 months and may have drifted apart emotionally, thus sparking Cecilia’s insecurity and her rash actions of demanding property transfers and divorce threats.
According to Nic’s assistant, Nic has not spoken to Cecilia on phone? She apparently sent a lot of text messages to him. That doesn’t sound like best communication mechanism. They should meet in person and reconcile differences if they want marriage to work.
@Jayne, It took me a moment to understand what unfounded ideas meant and I think that’s true. It happens. However, I always thought that it was good to have cool-off time and it allows both parties to assess the situation, what they could and couldn’t take, and give attention to those negative feelings. After all, there must have been something that their partner did that affected them emotionally and if we don’t give proper attention to these feelings and figure out why we are feeling a certain way, we can’t come together and fix the problem.
However, I feel that there is also a downside to cooling-off. For example, during that period where the couple is away from each other, but haven’t officially broken up, is it okay for either side to have flings or develop relationships with other people? If they do eventually find a way back together, I feel that this will make the other party not as trusting towards the relationship.
Chriselle,
For the most part, I would agree that some cool off period after a heated argument is good. However, an extended length of time for a married couple is not a good idea. It sounds as if Nic and Cecilia have not spoken to each other for at least a week on the phone? That is a long cool-off time after divorce enters the argument. In addition, their marriage is not a normal marriage (as compared to regular folks like us) in the sense that they have so much time apart, which makes it already easy to drip apart emotionally.
I known of married couples (often together for many, many years) who live “separate lives” where due to work schedules or different habits, personality traits, and other reasons, they have drifted apart emotionally and have their own friends, own circles. When a couple spends too much time apart, it’s not necessarily a good thing. For Nic and Cecilia, they have to put in more effort than normal married couples because of so much time apart. You really have to trust your partner and be emotionally independent, but not so much that you are living separate lives.
It came up a few times that Cecilia seems to prefer Lucas more than Quintus. I think the mother may have a stronger bond with the first child, since everything everything related to motherhood, such as pregnancy, birth, baby’s 1st developments, etc. are experienced for the first time. For a second child, there is less surprise so to say. Many parents tend to take less photos of their second babies as well. It is just human nature to treasure the first experiences more.
Also, Lucas is 4 now? He is more interactive, can play and talk with adults more, so Cecilia may prefer Lucas more. When Quintus is older and have more enhanced interactive abilities, the distance between Quintus and Lucas will even out a little more, and so may the preference in Cecilia’s heart.
Not only that, in Nic-Ceci’s particular situation, Lucas is closed to Ceci from when he was born. Quintus seems not that close to mom. Before having Quintus, Lucas is the focus of everyone. After having Quintus, Lucas is still the focus.
I mean closer, not closed.
Yea, that is true, however, maybe Nic was just suppressing his feelings and was hoping that Cecilia has learned from her past mistakes so he gave her another chance. But then she may have met with Edison again, so that may have really hurt Nic and is a big blow to him because it feels as if she has not learned from her past mistakes but still continues to make the same ones again.
I think that if a man/woman is insecure, they always will be even if they marry someone that loves and is loyal to them. It seems like insecurity is a trait that sticks with you regardless of who you marry and what you do. I think Cecilia does love Nic a lot and I remember that she suffered from depression and other stuff after they broke up the first time. It is great that they had a second chance at their love so I honestly don’t even want to imagine what would happen if they did divorce.
Cecilia and Patrick seem to have a pretty good relationship, so maybe that will help patch things up.Even though Nic has resented his father in the past for possibly cheating on his mom, it is now the distant past so I think Nic has forgiven his father and knows how to love him and maybe like him as well.
Out of the two of them, I prefer Nic to Cecilia. If they are really thinking of a divorce then all this media and public pressure would not help the situation. I feel sorry for their two children however if it does come to that.
I prefer Nic to Cecilia too. Nic have been more mature after their marriage. Poor little kids
I feel bad for the 2 kids as well. THey are so young but already have to go through so much. I really hope that it will not affect them if their parents do divorce…
Better young than older. If they’re older they know more, feel more, hurt more. The younger, the lesser the impact. But anyway they’re staying together aren’t they?
Regardless what happens between adults, it’s always the children who suffer.
Can feel that Ceci really loves Nic, too much in fact if the rumour is of any truth that she once kneeled in front of him to ask for forgiveness.
I really hope that this news isn’t true. They seem like a really sweet couple and have been through so much together. It will also be really sad for the children if they do separate.
The thing that gets me is why did she get together w/ that loser edson? I dont know but nic doesnt deserve this kind of news, he already working so hard & they are a beautiful & been through alot.
A man’s pride can only take so much! There is an old saying that “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”. After all, he was big enough to swallow his pride the first time and able to give his undying support to her. Cecilia certainly is not thinking clearly with her head when she asked to exchange seats to sit with Edison and taking photos with him. She didn’t even consider Nick’s or her in-laws’ feelings. How many in-laws in this world can accept a daughter-in-law with a notorious past where the whole world can read her naughty affairs or witness her nasty photos? It is a good thing that her in-laws are open-minded when Nick insisted on marrying Cecilia. I suspect that she still might have a little crush on Edison because as I recall, Nick and Edison had dated her around the same time. Of course, I am sure this is not the only incident that leads up to their separation. All married couples go through ups and downs in their marriages but now with her wanting more money or properties under her name may lead up to the separation. separation.
I feel that it is good and hard to forgive someone at times, but to forget what they did to you in the past and get close with them again is something even harder to do. I have a feeling that her meeting with Edison may have been more than what she has stated. I read another report about her saying that she even threatened reporters that have had photos of her taken. If that was true then there is a lot more truth to all this…
Cecilia never dated Edison at the same time as Nic. She dated Edison a couple months after her relationship with Nic was over. Edison was more of a rebound. Most likely she felt guilty for using Edison as a rebound, and then blamed him publicly for leaking the photos. She may have thought that Edison never deleted those photos on his computer, but after Edison proclaimed that he did indeed delete those photos, she finally knew that Edison wasn’t totally at fault.
@HeTieShou – agreed with u 100% abt **I have a feeling that her meeting with Edison may have been more than what she has stated** Like u, I believe in “4give and 4get” but this is not one of the circumstances that is easily forgiven when there are too many people involved in this matter. Edison totally destroyed all these women’s careers, futures, reputations and their family ties etc. I am sure as Nic and Cecilia’s children growing up, they will encounter some nasty teasings from their school friends. Cecilia’s scandals will 4ever leave a permanent mark on their young lives.
@Lacey,
I agree with you but I don’t think the whole scandal was 100% Edison’s fault. I mean, all of the girls were willing participants so it was not like he forced any of them. Also, it was not him that leaked the photos the out since it would ruin his reputation as well and it has. Even though many may forget about the scandal with time, but I think that you made a really good point that the scandal will forever leave a permanent mark on their young past. It is like a cut that heals but then the scar is still there. I feel that it is sad that her children who are innocent may have to endure what she did in the past. Why does the bad things from the previous generation have to pass onto the later generations??
“It is a good thing that her in-laws are open-minded when Nick insisted on marrying Cecilia. “
Actually, Deborah did kick up fuss when Nic married Cecilia. It took some time for the couple to assuage her feelings.
@ Petal
I agree with your postulate. At the time of the photo scandal, she must be full of anguish. So, she blamed Edison. But, it has been 3 years already and Edison has said that he did delete the photos. So, her anger for him must have subsided and she realised it’s not his fault that the photos leaked out. Based on this, she might want to initiate friendship again with Edison when she bumped into him in the airport.
Btw, Edison is being quite a scum in this case. He could have said ‘yeah, we did bump into each other on the plane’ and stopped at that. But, he has to go on and say their meeting was a happy one and the photos are not with him but with her and next time he meet her he will ask a copy from her. WTH?!
I wonder if whether he said like this is because he read Ceci’s blog denying it and calling him ‘Chen Something’.
“I wonder if whether he said like this is because he read Ceci’s blog denying it and calling him ‘Chen Something’.”
Interesting. I wasn’t aware about this name calling haha. Did she write “Chen something” or the Chinese-style “陳XX”?? 😛
Kidd,
Argh! Both Cecilia and Edison does seem to think with clarity that they should just have stayed civil strangers in this case. With the magnitude of their former scandal, there is no room for friendship left.
Edison is not a discrete man. Wouldn’t it suffice that if he did mend his ways with Cecilia to keep it to herself?
While Cecilia and Nic are in their marital crisis, I hope neither one takes a lover on the side, out of spite, to further complicate situation.
@HeTieShou: true in both cases abt the scandal is not entirely Edison’s fault and the women are willing participants. I just don’t know what these people are thinking when they decide to take all these photos! However, the common demnominator is that Edison is a sex fiend, it seems like he is doing this for self-gratification to prove that he is a sexual magnet to women.
@ Masaharu
This is second hand info from news report. I didn’t read the weibo message myself. Apparently Cecilia address Edison can ‘Chan Mau Mau’ (陳某某).
Cecilia seems very insecure from lots of old interviews I’ve seen… so hopefully they work something else and not let the outsiders (reporters) affect them
I have to agree with a lot of you. I don’t think that Cecilia is a gold digger but her insecurity definitely clouds her thinking. I know that she does love Nic vice versa. She has always wanted a family and her current life seems to be what she always wanted. What I don’t understand is why would she want to take picture with that loser Edison. It must take a big man to forgive what she has done in the past with Edison and to have put it back in the past to have it resurface now is just not cool. If she wanted to be civilized, just a greeting would have suffice. From my perspective, this is like another blow to Nic’s ego as a man. Although I don’t think this is the main factor causing their separation but must be a lot of cumulated problems throught the years. No couple is perfect but once you make a dedication to be married and to further bond together with kids, then they should try to work it out. Even if they were to end-up divorcing, I think with their love for their children, they will have their best interest at heart. Wonder if Nic has a lot of rumors, would Cecilia go even more nuts and become more irrational, as I don’t think he is plague with rumors with other actresses.
NOOO…they are so cute together, don’t divorce!!!
I remember reading a interview were Nic talks about his issue with Cecilia. He said she was a really demanding person who needed constant remainder of his love and attention. I will try and find the article.
I have been a fan of both of them for years and I love them as a couple but Cecilia sometimes does things that make you wonder, like the whole Edison reunion. She denies it and then has no choice but admited after Edison and his management confirm it. I bet Nic wasn’t too happy about it. Although it was a matter of time before they bumped into each other and shows a certain degree of maturity on her part but like Gillian said I would talk to him and move on not take pictures and stuff knowing what a blabber mouth he is and knowing how that could affect Nic remember the asian culture is about face and in her doing that Nic is loosing face in the public eye. She should have said yes I spoke to him and lets move on. I guess that would upset anyone.
Her asking for his money in such a way if true and the Edison thing makes you wonder what her intrusions are. She hasn’t been reported as being seen in Malasya at all since Nic has been there so it looks like she doesn’t want to be with him either where as before she would have been after him like moth to flame. She moving out of the house sends a clear message. I feel bad for Quintus though I’ve hardly seen a picture of them with him, not even on his first birthday in contrast of how she is with Lucas and how they celebrate everything he does and won’t stop talking about him as with Quintus who is always left behind or hardly mentioned. I
don’t know I just wonder what’s going to happened. I hope they work things out they are my fav couple besides Angie and Brad.
if not more has love, is the best take divorce, and try to looking for true love, the world is not small, their can do it.
save the children,forget the past.open your mind,