Chen Kun Clarifies Comment on Malaysia Boycott: “Don’t Blow Up My Anger”
Malaysia’s handling of the disappearance of flight MH370 has disgruntled China, and Malaysian celebrities are also facing a possible threat on their careers in mainland China.
On March 24, the Malaysian government announced that Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 had crashed into the Indian Ocean, killing everyone on board. Since 153 of the 239 people on board were Chinese citizens, many Chinese celebrities took to Weibo to express their discontentment at the Malaysian government, criticizing it for being irresponsible and incompetent.
Chen Kun (陳坤), who has over 72 million followers on his Weibo, expressed his utter disappointment at the Malaysian government and Malaysia Airlines on his Weibo, proclaiming that he will boycott Malaysian products and tourism indefinitely.
Not all netizens agreed with Chen Kun. One user said, “As an artist, how can [you] be so irrational? Your self-righteous mind goes on to say that there are [153] Chinese on the plane, but what about the people from other countries? The Chinese were not the only ones who lost their families. Many Malaysians also lost their families too. Please respect us Malaysians, thank you.”
Another Chinese netizen wrote, “To boycott the airline because of this incident is like stop eating after choking on food.” A Malaysian citizen said, “Please thoroughly observe the situation and understand it deeply. Do not just speak about what you see on the surface, which can lead to tens of thousands of Chinese citizens to slander the innocent.”
Chen Kun recently attended a public event in Shanghai and was asked to speak about the comment he made on boycotting the Malaysian government on March 25. Chen Kun stressed that his comment was not meant to be inflammatory, pointing out that he was only expressing his anger and disgruntlement.
“I am a public figure, but every time I see the pain that these sufferers had to endure, I also begin to feel it myself. My remarks were only directed to the Malaysian government and Malaysia Airlines. In the last 17 days, we have all seen the government’s prevarication on the incident.”
He continued, “I am not trying to appeal or push anything. I am only expressing my own attitude. I am not trying to counter any third party outside the Malaysian government and Malaysia Airlines. During such an important phase, I hope everyone to please not blow up [exaggerate] our anger.”
Source: Sina.com
This article is written by Addy for JayneStars.com.
oh no
he shouldn’t post it
Totally agree with you.
This guy is brainless. I am a malaysian chinese. I lost 10 friends on mh 370. I am devastated. One of the malaysian chinese stewardess 4 yrs old son said mommy is coming home soon. I am so sorry he will not see his mommy anymore. Chen ku. .Don’t blow up my anger !
When Chen Kun said “Don’t blow up my anger,” he meant don’t exaggerate his words.
When Chen Kun said “Don’t blow up my anger,” he meant don’t exaggerate his words.
yup.
ya.He shouldnt post it. Really brainless !!
Chen kun has ‘blew up my anger’. I will not patronize mainland films, artistes, anymore. I am fed up with the callous and uncouth behaviors of the Beijing relatives.
I am one who actually is very pro-China and often ‘defend’ China in news blogs on what China does, be it human rights, South China Sea disputes, Chinese culture etc against what is seen as western biased reporting.
But no, after this, I am no longer a mainland supporter To hell with mainland.
Don’t blow up my anger, our anger.
As a celebrity he should learn when to shut up and keep the opinions to himself or he will be another Anthony Wong.
“Don’t Blow Up My Anger”
Kaboom!! You blew up yourself. He is entitled to his opinion, but doesn’t mean I agree with him. And surely he should know his “anger” will be blown up? Or in media speak, misconstrued but we all know exactly what he means.
Apparently JJ Lin also said something very very negative and a friend of mine is very angry with JJ Lin. Not sure what he said, the usual chorus of WE WANT THE TRUTH brigade.
I now realise maybe in China the news they read are restricted that they can’t access info freely hence the misconception. Never mind. When our PM goes to China in May, I hope he gets chucked with a few water bottles and finally we can hear our PM make some impromptu speech.
I have read several china news in weibo. True enough, a lot wrote negatively abt Malaysia. However, some are quite true.
JJ Lin – chak hai to his china Fans since they are bigger in number? I guess he will lose a lot of his Malaysian Fans.
Just shut up
thats only if china continues to have that meeting the PM. could be like crimea where malaysia may given sanctions or quotas from china.
now is not the time for sarcastic comments
she wants ppl like mockinggenius to volunteer but she’s not willing to do so herself. instead shes on the internet rebutting, condemning the comments that are targeted at her.
if a person in malaysia is not willing to volunteer, why expect the people on JS to help?
exactly. useless being.
Mockinggenius,
you never give up posting anti-Malayisia negative comments. You and your kind should just get lost. You have a one track mind, and biased to the core.
You deemed yourself as educated and read news from ‘independent’ sources, but yet formed slanted opinions.
“The people there are not exactly ignorant as you imply. ”
Exactly, people in the whole world are not ignorant, that is why they do NOT this uncalled for outbursts like your mainlanders and YOU do.
” MAS tickets are going for discounted prices now.”
So you look very proud that your mission is showing results? It revealed the ugly chinamen like you.
Mockinggenius, thinner and their comments aren’t the worse. I have seen worse
@Localbiy: Just because I stand up for the bereaved Chinese families doesn’t mean I am from PRC. In fact I have never implied that PRC authorities can do no wrong. The government have many short comings and will take time to improve and open up. You only know how to criticise me, did you read some of the sarcastic anti Chinese comments here? I told Funn about the discounted MAS tickets because several of my friends were discussing about taking a holiday in KL. Your outburst is uncalled for.
MAS has been facing tough competition from other airlines in MAL. Hence MockingGenuius’s statement that the MAS prices will decrease is correct. But their is lot of uncertain b/c people may be affected by this and if ppl do not trust in the airline (look at the amount of incidents/accidents occured after MH370), it will be hard to overcome. no doubt, malaysia will function but it will affected if the tourism industry revenue goes down the drain.
People act irrationally when they’re sad and angry. Well, an artist is also a normal citizen of a country. No matter what they still have the right to say what they want. Not that I agree with him but that is human right.
The boycott Malaysia products is a rather naive statement. China is Msia’s second largest export destination, accounting up to 13% of its export. These includes electrical products, palm oil, petroleum products, LNG, and timber and rubber. Unless the Chinese government stops importing from Msia altogether, there will be components of a product like the rubber to make car tires that will come from a Msia imported product. But of course, Chen Kun can boycott MAS and Malaysia. MH is the largest airline that fly direct between BJ and KL in any case.
I idolised him but not now…dead brain.
As an artist or public figure. He should really think what to speak in what situation. The current situation is so intense and with much negativity. The last thing that the families of the passengers needed is a more added negativity in their mind. Since he has a huge number of followers in wino. He should used it to spread message of love and concern towards the families of this tragedy. Emotional support and care is what they need now. Not protest or boycott. He said don’t over exaggerate his anger. He himself has exaggerated the anger of millions of Chinese in China.
Agree with you. He never thinks about the impact his comment will have on others. He’s only fuelling others anger and it is not fair. There were Malaysians and other countries’ citizens on that plane too. Nobody wants this to happen. Immature man who never thinks before posting/talking.
hear hear!
well said,agree.
Agreed!
Congratulations! Well put!
Ignorant.. He’s entitled to his opinion but should’ve kept his mouth shut from the boycotting issues.
Haters, he has the right to say anything and boycott everything. I’m on his side this time.
I like him and after this incident I still like him. He is someone who really care for his people.
Just wondering, if the flight didn’t have Chinese passengers on it, would these celebrities still be so outraged? If the plane had carried over a hundred people of another nationality, would he still want to boycott Malaysian products? They make it sound like the Malay govt would have done more had the passengers not been Chinese. How and when did a plane crash become a patriotic issue? When did these brainless celebrities’ opinions become more important than the crash itself?
Can’t put it any better than you MT. Well said!
Celebrity sometime don’t really have a braind…
They do have brain but they should just stick to what they do best. Just steer away from politics.LOL!
chen kun with his 72 million followers/fans he can stir something with one word,so he should be careful with what he say.of course he may express his disappointment in malaysian government but to say he will boycot its product and tourism is a bit too far,because nobody knows what the true is.and i doubt if they will ever find the true,even if they find the black box it will be difficult,the black box can only record the last 2 hours of the flight and if the plane has really flight on 7,5 till 8,5 after they disappaered from the radar,then the first 5,5 hours would not be recorded.
Yup, it’s okay to express his disappointment toward the Malaysian Government but to take action against the Malaysian is harsh. No one know what actually happened. The black box surface or not all everyone can do is to be open minded. Will China handle the incident any better???
i dont believe that they dont know what happened. [if the truth lies behind undisclosed information – airport security, radar, and more, of corse they never disclose it]. just with 1977 incident
what blow your anger? these actors (chen kun) and actresses (zhang ziyi) are simply insensitive. yes, we malaysians know that you are angry and sad for what had happened to the chinese but please bear in mind that there were malaysians in the plane too! we are just as heartbroken as you are. nothing less! just go ahead with the boycott. don’t have to cover up by claiming that you made that statement out of anger. so obvious that you have a very low eq and never think twice before you speak. if possible, NEVER air your dramas and movies in OUR country!! thank you and have a good day you dimwit
Good say…support you LEE…
I guess they forget that there are others besides Chinese on the flight. I still do not understand why everyone is blaming everything on Malaysia??? Strange… All life is equal but of course many just aim to protect and care for their own people only. I wonder what Michelle Yeoh who is also Malaysian thinks of all this? I think she does not dare to comment. Even Fish Leong(Malaysian singer) just posted a message praying for all of the victims got attacked by many Chinese netizens. Is this becoming a China versus Malaysia thing?
Mainland Chinese have a very strong patriot sense >__> dont even try to make any comment regarding china unless you want to sit there and argue with herd or hrs >_> to her, one must be protective of one’s country >_<
Gg! Half of my message didn’t get upload… Wth.
The whole message is: mainland chinese has a very strong patriot sense, they always feel the need to protect their country. so if anything appear to hurt/attack china/chinese, will cause them to attack others.
I used to live with a 40yrs old Chinese lady, and every time the news mentioned china, she would be really tense, viewing the news as great evil, that they have no idea what they are talking about. If you try to lighten her up, she reckon you are a child, and do not understand the important/seriousness of the situation. If you make a wrong comment about china/Chinese, she turns unfriendly, and argue with you ~_~ if you make a good case, and she can’t argue back, she is like you can’t trust the news, and they try to make china look bad because china is a fearsome nation >_> to her, one must be protective of one’s country, no matter what >_> oh, that patriot sense lol.
people call on boycott of chinese products all the time (regular people, politicians, celebs) and i dont see anyone angry about it. haters gotta hate. malaysian government just manned up. what did michelle yeoh say?
If i am a public figure … ie politician, celebrity and the like … AND If i were to take my rant and boycott Made in China products and will not visit China ever because of their less than sub-standards products that are hazardous to our health to facebook, tweeter etc, is that blowing up anger? I think not … that’s irresponsible
Actually i do avoid made in china goods when possible, too many reporting in the news kinda make me leery, and items made in china don’t really last.
LOL what? How can you avoid china goods? They’re EVERYWHERE.
People say that but a lot of products are manufactured in Vietnam, Thailand, Bangladesh do to cheaper wages.I’ve noticed at stores that more and more products are being made elsewhere.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323798104578453073103566416
Yeap thats true. now aday less and less product made in china. Used to but Not now. Seriously when buying food product I always avoid made in china.
who doesnt avoid food products that are made in china?
Did you check your I phone 5s? It’s designed in USA and assembled in China. Time to chuck it in the garbage bin. Please also check your wardrobe, many well known American, Japanese brands are made in China too, please donate them all to charity since they may make you unhappy too. Don’t forget to check the origins of your shoes too.
i just did. none were from china anymore. mainly from vn and th. apparently the only thing from china is tainted milk and counterfeit goods
Haha well done Stussy , you so sweet 🙂 , i dun buy any s@hit from PRC agrs ago .. low quality and full of toxic . Thanks for telling me and no wonder iphone getting s@hit quality .. heaps people swap to Samsung now 🙂
@stussy: Which SE Asian countries doesn’t produce counterfeit goods? It takes 2 to tango, wannabes who think they will look rich in a fake LV, even Celine D went on a shopping spree for fake handbags in Shanghai. Why are you bothered that PRC produces counterfeit goods? They don’t shove them down your throat.
Samsung is also made in china.
Dear Jessica , there’s export version Samsung make in china but there’s better version that cost you a wee bit more but fully make in Korea 😉
I still see many of my clothing and stuff made in China.
yes china is the manufacturer of the world but im not proud of it,because they have to pay a high price for it.the environmental pollution is out of control,water pollution,air pollution,earth pollution,all these industrial garbage made china the most poluted country of the world.due to this the life expectation of many chinese ppl will decrease and they have likely more chance to get a deadly disease.
and what about the human rights? there are no human rights,look at the region xinjian and tibet who’s ppl were suppressed for fighting more freedom.the big companies like foxcon treat their employees like slaves,the corruptions in many layers of the society. food scandals,have i heart a word about it from these patriotic chinese stars? no.
Last checked….shoes are Italian made. Clothes made in Vietnam, some in Bolivia.
New kitchen installed…made in AUSTRALIA… And GERMANY! Food are all product of Malaysia or Taiwan or Thailand….!!!
This guy is dumb dumb dumb. Doesn’t matter if he is angry with the rest of the other missing family. He is a public figure, there will be judgement and he make the wrong move opening his smart @ss mouth. Well i was never a fan and now is guarantee never will be. Dumb @ss
There’s no law against stupidity. I could do a tit-for-tat and boycott his movies, but it’d only work if he was a good actor…..
And so the madness continue!
dumb celebrities.
I’m neutral with Chen Kun. I think that he is talented, but do not go all out to find and watch his movies. What he said was not taken out of context. Do you do expect people to think if he used those words. Thanks why people tell celebrity to express everything on social media. Really this a dumb like Jane Fonda moment. What bugs me is that after they got their attention, they blame you for being oversensitive or for misconstruing the meaning behind their statement.
Oops sorry forgot to edit.
I’m neutral with Chen Kun. I think that he is talented, but do not go all out to find and watch his movies. What he said was not taken out of context. That’s why people tell celebrity to not express everything on social media. Really this is a dumb Jane Fonda like moment. What bugs me is that after they got their attention, they blame you for being oversensitive or for misconstruing the meaning behind their statement.
Many China-Chinese I have met are quite sheep like groupie in oveRALL thinking.
They don’t mentally process stuff individually, they go with the majority opinionS and are easily swayed.
for eg: if everything says X product is good, then it must be good. they seldom seem to consider/question the factors that make it good (or make it SEEM good), or if the product is even suitable for them individually. Doesn’t mean if something is good for everyone = it is good for you.
People like that are easily to sway. Get a strong group leader, make some believe and henceforth his word is the holy gospel.
Materialistic?
Man you’re good. LOL!
Oh boy it show us Chinese are so irrational thanks to this kind of public figure. I’ll prefer to be known as a Malaysian. Your stupid anger will disrupt the peace of both nations stupid! Please process first before you speak moron.
hey @ Chill i not even know who’s Chen Kun that he not even famous ( maybe in china , no ? )and i don’t think i’m going to watch any of his movies in future .Btw i think this is the time for him to shine and seeking attention to gain more popularity .
He is one of the top artist in China and his weibo has the highest no of followers. He is very famous in China and Japan. He doesn’t need this to gain attention. As a regular follower of his weibo, I know he is one who always speak up to defend his fellow chinese. Last year inself, he posted abt Zhu Ling, the university student who was poisoned by someone important in China, (when everybody dare not say a word abt it), who escape prosecution due to her status. He even donate to her family to help her. Therefore, I am not surprise he posted his disatisfaction on MH370.
He always keep a very low profile and definately not an attention seeker.
Let Malaysia boycott his movies then!
good job these artistes!
and it was an assumption that the plane crashed. if theyre searching in the right area, why no black signal?
if it did crash, then why is there zero signal from black box?
Black box searcher just arrived to Australia??? They have been searching for debris without it because US only decided to lend the machine recently. I heard they will only have 2-3 days to use the machine.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/missing-malaysia-flight-mh370-french-satellite-images-show-possible-debris-field-of-122-objects-in-search-area-9216139.html
Its been there since March 26. but their is 8-9 days left of the battery source
The lesson here is use both brain and heart before stating something especially as public figure. Also, he seems to lack guts, kind of pulling back slightly what he said from the start. If you said what you mean, mean it, don’t pull back. Just seems insincere in the end and trying again to salvage reputation and do damage control. Damage is done though…
damage will increase
Exactly this.
This guy is definitely talking out of his ignorance and madness. I don’t think Malaysian would give a damn if Chen Kun wants to boycott .
This Chen Kunt is saying to people, “don’t blow up my anger”. sorry to burst your bubble Mr Delosional, you already did that in fi8t of anger and ignorance.
Just because you may fancy yourself a celebrity, it does not mean the people of Malaysia will miss any sleep over your threats of boycotting Malaysia and its products.
This is directed to mockinggenius:
All these while, I’m behind the scene silenced reader, but the way you always pick and lambast Funn make me wriggle out of my warm cocoon.
Your name suit you fine, a NON genius who like mocking people.
You’re too hellbent to patriotism that you’re ‘totally unaware’ of the dire situation faced by other concerned citizens of the affected nations where they all grieved in dignity and in silence. You however blindly choose to following the wailing unruly crowd and apparently hit out at any reader who fairly defends Malaysia. You jumped to conclusion indiscriminately.
No doubt about it, the Malaysia government did make a blunder and is imcompetent, like many said so, but it isn’t its citizen who a majority of them actually spit its governance.
Rightfully holding back sensitive documents pertaining to country security is paramount, likewise any other countries will do so.
You’re still adamant to accept the truth so far and yet want the true truth, like the rest of the drama queens and kings. The more the drama, the most the cash payout, no?
The investigative case is still ongoing and isn’t conclude yet, unlike the numerous incidents where the country you live in, will be just swept away in an instant, no if and no but. Brave to on parade, go on protesting, go on wailing, and see where you will end up.Go and tell them the one child policy huh? Bet my bottom dollar you have a rosy ending.
Funn is right in many points, writing finely and voicing out the relevant issues and she deserves my applause. For all I know, you’re just too temperamental, sensitive, hotheaded, argumentative, unreasonable, insane and worst of all, never think before you talk incessantly.
I might incur the wrath of other readers who wholly support you, but I don’t give a ****, as a grain of rice begets thousands of lives….something along this line. The mouths are theirs.
PS: Fyi, I ain’t a Malaysian nor from Asia. Like everyone else, I am too engrossed in this MH370 disaster but only listen to the relevant authorities for the latest news, not so much on news medias which MIGHT deliberately juice up to garner more sales, intentionally or unintentionally,
@fairplay: Oh, the PRC families who grieved loudly and some even on the point of being hysterical are now being accused of putting on a good show in order to get more insurance money. What will come next? A majority of the protestors are professional ones? I will translate your post and relate them to my aunt who have lost her entire family in this crash, It will give her more strength to go on.
Better to be crying rich in a BMW than be grieving poor on a bicycle…,
@dudumdym: Look in the mirror, you may find a very ugly reflection.
Nope, just look , look good and most important still not black hearted or stupid like you…
@fairplay: No one who have lost a beloved family member in this crash will have a rosy ending. Some will never recover from their loss and they will go living in darkness. You can ply on the insults, nobody can match you.
@fairplay: Appreciate your comment on the right way to grieve since crying or wailing loudly Is undignified. I will try to relate them to my bereaved aunt and convince her to behave more appropriately for the international press. You imply you are not Malaysian or Asian so I assume you are a white person, thanks for showing interest in a website on Asian show biz affairs.
Why can’t fairplay be a black or aboriginal person too?. I personally know several minority people who are well versed in the Chinese culture and who enjoy the Asian entertainment as well. Fairplay could be white too, but it is ludicrous to go around assuming.
fairplay was saying that he or she was not a Malaysian nor from Asia, which means that he or she could be asian from non-asian countries. But then again, he or she could be anything. Who knows?
I am msian too but i find funn tend to have biased and most of the time negative remarks e.g in her reviews or comments.
merci pour votre support!
[translates to thank you for your support]
@dorica: Bonjour, Je suis content aujourdui. Pouquois? Your beautiful words. My French is very rusty despite I did 5 years of it at high school as a second language. 🙂
Who is not biased to some extent???
agree HTS,and since no one knows what really happened with the plane,all comments here who have something to blame are biased.
and if if some malaysians are sick of the comments posted on this site, dont click on this article then. who are you to blame for clicking on this article knowing it is very controversial?
Well said fairplay. Couldn’t agree more.
Well said fairplay .
right on
I don’t support any side but i really agree with you fairplay .
@fairplay
I also don’t usually write comments or even read it but I was interested since there were over 200 comments. I am Chinese, and was born in China and raised mainly in the United States. I am not going to assume your nationality. I am an university senior, majoring in biochemistry and have absolutely no interest in politics and is extremely neutral about this event (as in which country is right and which isn’t). However, I am writing today because I feel that you made a lot of assumptions that I do not agree with.
1. “You’re too hellbent to patriotism that you’re ‘totally unaware’ of the dire situation faced by other concerned citizens of the affected nations where they all grieved in dignity and in silence.” How is it even possible to grieve in dignity and silence? Are Chinese people not allowed to uphold any public rights and only developed countries such as the United States have the right to public speaking. Majority of the Chinese population is still uneducated (especially parents of the older age group like mine). Education was not a privileged as it is in developed countries. My parents only graduated from elementary school and I am 100% sure they would act exactly like the Chinese families you see on TV if I was on that plane, even though they have been in the United States for 18+ years (“civilized”? Maybe not. Human? Absolutely yes!). That is because it is the only thing they can possibly do. They did not grow up in a privileged countries where they can fight “with dignity” to get the things that they want (e.g. equality in marriage, right to health care, right to bear arms, right to a ton of human rights). Just because a certain group’s display of grieve and sadness is difference than yours does not make it any right or wrong than how you display them. So it is okay for the United States to hold Pride parades where groups of 90% naked men and women walk about publicly but not okay for the Chinese families to protest and cry with no dignity? And it is okay for Spain to continue with their bull run, which causes numerous injuries, property damages, and an obvious offense of animal rights, but it is not okay for Chinese families to cause scenes that may or may not disrupt international functions. Grieving in silence will get you no way. That is like telling a rape victim to grieve in silence! If something is unjust, then they have ever right to try to make things right. However, what else can they do but cry on TV? It is not like they can all rent a ship and look for the plane themselves.
Well said Guest,, Couldn’t agree more.
3. Last because I need to sleep. “You’re still adamant to accept the truth so far and yet want the true truth, like the rest of the drama queens and kings. The more the drama, the most the cash payout, no? The investigative case is still ongoing and isn’t conclude yet”.
Is the “truth” that you referred to this: “All lives are lost”. On March 24th. There is no evidence, conclusion, and answer to this random statement. A justification that were given was from “Najib Razak [who] told reporters that Flight 370 went down somewhere in the southern Indian Ocean, far from any possible landing site” (http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asia/malaysia-plane-families/). Apparently, they individually called all the family members about this news and those who did not pick up received a text message. Of course I would love a text message telling me that the airline responsible for this event is giving up their efforts to find survivors and is now focused on looking for the bodies.
No matter how prepare you expect the families to be in, there are still 5 stages of loss and grief that people go through differently (http://psychcentral.com/lib/the-5-stages-of-loss-and-grief/000617). No one should expect the families to all accept when most are still in the other stages: denial, anger, bargaining, or depression. The grandma in the video is still very much still in the anger stage. Her only son is gone. What is wrong with the one child policy? It’s a fact. She, as well as everyone in China, most likely only had one child and the families from the other nations who chose to only have one child; all of those children are on the plane. They are all lives but yet you talked as though they are easy tickets to getting a “rosy ending”. Chinese elders look to their offspring to take care of them, as well as numerous of other nations (Korean, Mexicans, Africans, etc. You should learn your statistics). Money doesn’t matter to them because they won’t be happy with just money. Most Chinese elders don’t care to travel the world, maybe city to city or nearby countries with their elder friends, but for them, most of the joys are spent with their families. Additionally, the one child policy was a law enforced by the government. They could do nothing about it. Your statement can be referenced to as someone who is criticizing an unemployed person of getting free money from the government. “Why work when you can have a rosy ending by doing absolutely nothing”. Right?
4. I just had to because you are unbelievable. “Funn is right… [and] writing finely and voicing out the relevant issues and she deserves my applause. For all I know, you’re just too temperamental, sensitive, hotheaded, augmentative, unreasonable, insane, and worse of all, never think before you talk incessantly”. So you got all of that from a paragraph size post? You most likely have never talked to anyone before, never read a book in your life, never been educated, never taken a writing class, never contributed to an argument, never won an argument or never (fill in the blank). Hey, but you’re very good at using the thesaurus because you managed to choose words that don’t even applied to Mockinggenius’s post. For example, insane is defined to be a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction. Which part of Mockinggenius’s post suggests any one of those three? Everyone is entitled their own opinions but it is unjust to criticize others’ opinions. College 101 is accepting others’ for who they are and embracing and understanding others’ cultures. It is not even your direct attack against Mockinggenius but the fact that you made many assumptions that related to the Chinese people that I couldn’t stand to watch. Educate yourself! On this whole event (which the Malaysian government and military really could have done better for the victims in their own country, those in other countries, and nearby countries who are helping out in the search)! On the values and believes of different cultures, and not just through dramas and gossip sites but actually getting to know their values and believes! On how to accept (or at least not criticized) different cultures! We live in a very international world now. You need to stop believing that your ideas or ideas who aligned with yours are the only correct ones, but learn to accept those of other people! If you want to display a strong argument, then provide supports for your claims. On a closing note, I am just a picky arguer, and there were many false assumptions in your post. Hope you do better next time!
@guest: I appreciate your comments and hope Chinese people from the PRC will be able to find comfort and courage from your words. I am a 3rd generation Chinese brought up in the free whole because my grandparents chose to emigrate before the chaotic years of wars China. I have no idea about my roots and used to. be prejudiced too about my fellow country men. Then the more I learn about their history I realised I was very fortunate to have freedom, education etc. The 60+ group of PRC citizens have suffered the most although their lives have greatly improved over the past 2 decades. I find the anti PRC Chinese comments in this website discriminating, racist etc. Some,are posted by people. who ethnic wise are Chinese themselves. This is certainly a very sad reflection on humanity.
Sorry I mean to say “brought up in the free world”
agree
@Mockinggenius … im a Malaysian … similarly like you im a 2nd generation Chinese brought up in another country … my grandparents come from China and i still have many relatives in China, as well as in Malaysia and Singapore … just like you, 30% of the population in Malaysia consists of people like you and me who has Chinese ancestry but have a different country’s citizenship.
most of the Malaysians who post here in this blog including Funn Lim is the same as you and me, we all have the same source of ancestry just that we live in different countries … similarly celebrities such as Fish Leong, Michael Wong, Michelle Yeoh, Lee Chong Wei and the PENDRIVE inventor etc are also Malaysian with Chinese ancestry
i like Chen Kun, he is one of the first China actor that i like ever since his drama “Love Story in Shanghai” was aired on Malaysian TV about 15 years ago … however his call to boycott all Malaysian and tourism is a statement that has also really saddened and hurt the feelings of many Malaysians of Chinese ancestry in Malaysia too … for the past 60 years many Malaysian Chinese endlessly contributed to China and have never gave up on our fellow ancestral friends and relatives in mainland too … no matter how difficult it is to live and survive in Malaysia in Singapore at that time, we sent quite alot of our hard earn money to relatives in China … we save and save and save just to contribute whatever we can to our relatives and villagers in China … when things were not allowed in China, we send lots of clothes, sewing machine, bicycle, food, can milk, oilment and other luxury items without calculating how much we have contributed … fortunately my family is not in a business that is too tedious … but many other Malaysian Chinese earn money the very hard wait just to help relatives in China in the past 100 years such as working as coolie and maids, but at the end when they are old they have no choice but to continue staying in Malaysia and Singapore because of financial reasons and never returned back to their family in China … throughout the years, Malaysian Chinese sacrifice alot for the sake of relatives in China too.
many Malaysians have made many contributions to China too … when China did not have sufficient supply of sugar, a Malaysian Chinese tycoon Robert Kuok from Malaysia tried very hard to obtain the supply for China … when Beijing first open up and needed development, he contributed money for their development … when China needed palm oil supply, many Malaysians developed palm oil industries to support the economy … few years ago, even CCTV honoured him in their awards:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeS8aenOCno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFO9LcsM6ts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kuok
besides him, many other Malaysian Chinese too have contributed substantially to China … during the earthquake and big flood we donated generously … all these years we have always had our ancestral love and never hesitated to lend our help … when China first open up in 1991, many Malaysian Chinese went to China to visit the relatives … my family’s visit was a little late, we only manage to raise enough of funds in 2005 just to visit our relatives in China for the first and last time … we were also very touched that relatives in China also took alot of effort to travel all the way and plan a gathering together just for the one and only time ;-(
dear all from other countries than Malaysia, please think and consider before you start bashing Malaysia… to boycott Malaysian products and tourism includes boycotting businesses by your own people of your same ancestral origin … it hurts deeply to after 60 over years of love and contribution with such remarks
there are many things that we are unhappy and not satisfied too over this incident and many other issues but we have no way to express … and @Mockinggenius, stop using those articles from the mainstream media and use it as your absolute reference, majority of Malaysians dont even want to read those newspapers either since many years ago, we have other references … there are many things as Malaysians that is not our choice, but we cant do anything about it either … whatever, that the China relatives know is as much as what the normal average Malaysian know, we know nothing more … please stop bashing Malaysia as a whole, normal Malaysians also dont know what is happening.
@anneyen
Enjoyed reading your post. It is true and very touching.
many Malaysian are also in grief now over the situation … one of the passenger is my boss’s cousin and another is my friend’s church friend … one his wife just had a few month old baby and another is a happy grandfather … we Malaysians too are in great despair =( … like many Malaysians in this blog, we are not really a big supporter of our government … however although our Malaysian government is not competent in many ways, but in my entire life as a Malaysian, this has been the sincerest and best effort that has ever been seen from our government especially our Acting Transport Minister that i think alot of Malaysians are also surprised that he manage to handle it rather okay … perhaps not satisfactory, but as a Malaysian nation as a whole, we Malaysians too are also struggling hard to accept the incident, we also hope that the truth can be known as soon as possible so that we can get over the situation, for now we can only hope and pray that everyone can safely return.
sad that malaysians need to turn to alternative media to seek non-corrupt news, instead of relying on the traditional media.
stop thinking that maalysians are the only ones affected by this. i really hate how both Chinese and malaysians are thinking that their are the only ones affected by this. Yeah, we get it.
There are other non-Malaysian/non-Chinese families affected by this. Eg: the Canadian couple who has two young boys.
it doesnt matter if malaysian gov is sincere or not. they werent able to solve a crash that landed on land in 1977. to this day, they are still not able to know what has happened despite it crashed on land. you tell us how successful will they be able to solve a crash that landed in the deepest part of ocean. coommon sense tells you they are not capable of solving it despite being sincere or not.
@annon … yes we understand, we know that there are almost 20 nationalities on that plane and we hope that everyone will return safely … everyone prays for the safe return of the entire plane.
Well Said Guest!
@anneyen: I read your post twice. I don’t have any negative feelings about Malaysia or it’s people nor do I think actions like boycott on t ravel or goods are appropriate. I seldom post on this website and was even shocked when I read the racist comments and verbal attacks on the bereaved PRC families. I don’t condone all their social manners but at times of stress and extreme grief even the most rational person will become irrational. People have suggested that their protest, display of grief are for the sake of more insurance payout. You can read for yourself. I find it both painful and disturbing since many of these people are “Chinese” themselves. It’s fine for citizens to stand up for their country but do not go down the racist road. PRC is a big country which have only started to open up in the past 30 years after decades of chaos. Their people especially those born in the 50’s to 60’s have suffered starvation, forced family separation,insecurity, lose of chance of education, etc. These are the type of parents who have lost their families in this plane crash. To call their behaviour uncivilised, mourning ugly are beyond my understanding of humanity.
@Mockinggenius … thank you for reading my post, and thank you for understanding that not everything in Malaysia is negative … i dont agree with the uncivilised and ugly description mentioned by some people too, that is very rude and disrespectful, it is not in our malaysian culture to say such things … in malaysia we have “adat resam” (etiquette & manners), generally many malaysians are polite … agree with you that “at times of stress and extreme grief even the most rational person will become irrational” … generally i think many malaysians were also understanding and caring about the situation, even when the China relatives throw mineral water bottles at MAS Airline staff at the Beijing press conference none of the staff retaliated and just solemnly face the situation, the staff members in fact breakdown to tears too by the fifth day … in malaysia i believe the volunteers assigned also tried their best to cope with the situation, our government is also figuring out ways to communicate most effectively with the China relatives by discussing with the local Chinese Language Media or providing translations … just hope that things would get better … @Mockinggenius, thank you for your kind understanding.
@anneyen: I forgot to mention something. Mistrust and misunderstanding can be caused by a simple statement from the Malaysian authorities. I don’t know if you are aware that Mr. A of the opposition party did an in depth interview with HK SCMP and of course they asked him about his relationship with the chief pilot. He said he only knew him as a party member but not well acquainted. Next day the reporters found out they were actually related, albeit a distant relation. Credible information regarding the plane crash is already limited so people immediately think of conspiracy theories especially when Mr. A refused to comment further. I am not implying that Mr. A have something to hide or the chief pilot caused the crash. But in sensitive times when emotions are already running high a few wrong words can be quite disastrous. Let’s hope that all who have lost loved ones will find peace and trust in life again soon. 🙂
hi @Mockinggenius … i know you are very curious and inquisitive about alot of things with regards to malaysia and the plane incident … but as many others on this blog has advice you, there is not much that you understand about malaysia and we would kindly appreciate that this topic be not discussed further … whatever that can be explained to you has already been explained by funn, felicity and others … besides tourism and culture, we cant share with you other information … hope that you understand, thank you!
many things that you read on the news may be real and also may not be real … it is best not to take it too seriously because you wont be able to come to any conclusions … only malaysians will know what is happening in malaysia, and only we know what is real and what is not … it is very difficult for you to understand and none of us will explain to you either, sorry we hope you can be considerate about our feelings … although funn and felicity and others may be harsh in response to your question about this similar matter, they have their reasons and hope you can be understanding to them too … it is best for you to just stop thinking about this news article as it wont lead you to more answers … for many more questions that may arise as you read the news about malaysia, nobody here would give you an answer as we are not in a position to provide the answer … however it must be emphasized that many things that is in the news cannot be considered as the absolute truth … very sorry that we cant explain to you further.
@anneyen: All your points taken. It has been a pleasure “chatting” to you. I will not be posting anymore on this website. One last note I am not just curious about Malaysia just for the sake of bring curious, my father actually have close ties with that part of the world and my birth place is Bander Seri Bengawan. How my parents ended up there is history. Blessings from me to all friendly Malaysians.
@Mockinggenius … nice chatting with you too =) … wow your born in Brunei, same place as where Wu Chun is from 😉 … well since you have some links overthere you would know what is like and how things work in that part of the world =) … hope we’ll have a chat again in the future … blessings to you too ^ ^
@fairplay
What is all comment about grieved loudly and hysterically???
Everyone/every nation has different act and culture. Not saying that, this is NOT normal incident.
And most of the victims are Chinese. The Chinese families member gather together in tremendous grieved. When people gather together they will affect each others and have more power >> including power to grieve, upset, angry!
When others nation victims beside MAS and Chinese, are grieving in their own home, and they also have different culture to react.
Please respect other culture!!!
The mystery of not knowing exactly what happened is very painful. They will live uncertainty through their entire life.
IT IS common sense to understand how they must be feeling…
and OMG your comment about cash payout really disrecpectful. I guess you are a materialistic one?
ps. FYI I’m not from China.
While I’m quite disappointed and surprised about how Malaysia handled this debacle, I’m even more surprised by the outrage expressed by Chinese mainlanders.
I understand their anger. Yet I feel they have been entirely unfair about the whole situation.
They act like their own country has never been irresponsible. Believe me, there has been countless examples of irresponsibility. Yet very few measures have been taken to correct these kinds of situations. They should be upset, yes, but if they’re going all out to say they’re boycotting an irresponsible country, then by all means, do the same for your OWN country. Boycott everything made in China, including your food, clothes, transport, etc.
All I’m saying is, be angry but be fair. It seems Chen Kun needs to work on his EQ more.
Good!
“They act like their own country has never been irresponsible. ”
Why is China responsible for this incident/accident? This occured to a Malaysian airline, not a China Airlines. If the plane was shot down or ruined by China, then yeah, China is responsible. But if not, why putting the blame on China?
You didnt like it when some of us put the blame on malaysia, why are you doing it to china? to feel good? to give them a taste of their medicine?
“I am only expressing my own attitude.”
And what attitude is that, Chen Kun? An attutide of biasness and immaturity. He talks as if all Malaysians are to blame for the sufferings of the chinese passengers, or the Malaysians are not grieving as well. Chen Kun has a bad case of Foot In Mouth disease!
Talking about this bloke, didn’t Zhao Wei fans chastise Chen Kun for ganging up with Zhou Xun in her spat with Zhao Wei, not too long ago? See, I knew there was a reason I never liked Chen Kun to begin with. He has an arrogant face and his lack of sensitivity towards his old ‘friend’ Zhao Wei just seals it for me. Team Zhao Wei all the way!
Btw, I also find it amusing that some of these chinese celebrities are declaring their boycott of M’sian products. Let’s see if Zhang Ziyi and her cohorts will stop wearing Jimmy Choo shoes on the red carpet forever. LOL
A clarification on Jimmy Choo shoes. Jimmy Choo sold all his stakes in the company to his partner and is no longer strictly Jimmy Choo product per se.
Smart of him to sell off his shares, I say. Jimmy Choo has made his millions, now it’s time for him to retire, kickback and enjoy life. 🙂
As for the Jimmy Choo brand, it will always be known as a high end fashion brand founded by a Malaysian. Jimmy Choo is a truly successful global brand with Hollywood stars and America’s First Lady Michelle Obama among its luminous clientele. The brand will keep going strong with or without the support of Chinese stars, we all know that.
You are biased yourself felicity and some of you here are bullying Mockingenius who has lost a relative in the flight by bashing how the Chinese victims behaviour. I can’t stand it when the victims are being pushed down. Surely there is a more classy way than personal retorts against a certain individual such as Mockingenius who is grieving for her aunt’s plight.
謝謝!
So, has it now come down to a competition on who is the bigger victim? Are you not biased yourself, Siuyuan?
This tragedy is bigger than Mockinggenius’ personal loss, many others are affected and grieving too. To quote yourself – “there is a more classy way than personal retorts against a certain individual”. There are many things we can all say about the way the mainland Chinese have reacted towards Malaysia, but “classy” is the last word I’d use to describe them.
“Drama queens, that’s all I can say. If you can’t grief in a level headed way then you’re only insulting your loved one’s memory and yourself. Dignified grief is not hard to do. Hysterical grieving is expected. But like our acting transport minister, many Malaysians are baffled by the hysteria mob amongst the Chinese and the unfair accusations and the many stars’ echos like robot for the truth. I will ask them this; what is your question? And are you ready for the truth? Since many said they won’t believe whatever our government says, then what is the point of us revealing anything since you will not hear the truth and calls us liars. The only “truth” you want is a lie; a beautiful lie like “April’s fools joke! They’re all alive, stranded in South Pole with the penguins”. We all know that is an impossibility and a blatant lie. So what more could our government say?”
written by F-U-N-N
are you serious anonymous?
here’s the direct quote:
“Anyway been hearing the same word this few weeks. TRUTH. We want the truth. Perhaps those people never asked the correct question or may be afraid to. I lost my patience when we are accused as murderers. Drama queens, that’s all I can say. If you can’t grief in a level headed way then you’re only insulting your loved one’s memory and yourself. Dignified grief is not hard to do. Hysterical grieving is expected. But like our acting transport minister, many Malaysians are baffled by the hysteria mob amongst the Chinese and the unfair accusations and the many stars’ echos like robot for the truth. I will ask them this; what is your question? And are you ready for the truth? “
poor judgment.
Someone doesn’t want something to be known here. Malaysia didn’t change this statement shedding doubt on the pilots, until they were required to release the full transcript. They still haven’t released the cargo manifest, have only reluctantly admitted there was 440-pounds of lithium batteries in the cargo. They claim they were lithium ion batteries, not the lithium metal batteries banned from passenger aircraft in most countries. But still no cargo manifest, why not? What could possibly have been in the cargo compartment of a passenger airliner, that they can’t tell us about? If there is any information that casts Malaysia in any bad light, are they likely to hide that? Sure seems like it.
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‘The statement from the civil aviation authority came after acting Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein was questioned at a news conference on Monday over the last words from the cockpit and fended off demands to release the official transcript.”
Why would you fend off demands to release the official transcript? And then prematurely announce that all the passengers are dead without evidence. It is obvious the Malaysian government are hiding things which only makes you wonder what else have they been hiding? ‘
Someone doesn’t want something to be known here. Malaysia didn’t change this statement shedding doubt on the pilots, until they were required to release the full transcript. They still haven’t released the cargo manifest, have only reluctantly admitted there was 440-pounds of lithium batteries in the cargo. They claim they were lithium ion batteries, not the lithium metal batteries banned from passenger aircraft in most countries. But still no cargo manifest, why not? What could possibly have been in the cargo compartment of a passenger airliner, that they can’t tell us about? If there is any information that casts Malaysia in any bad light, are they likely to hide that? Sure seems like it.
Catherine, you seems to know a lot. It’s a shame that they did not engage your service. For heaven’s sake, the search party involves many countries. If it is as easy as you think, perhaps they did not find the right person/country for the job. Until the blackbox is found, we would never know the truth. Remember, no one wants this any more than you do..
@Trini: You can choose to be a diehard fan of Funn and make the assumption that I am postings under different names “anonymous” and “Thinner”. Another person with some intelligence will see that my style of writing is very different from the other 2. Ah, next you will say I write in different ways to hide my identity, sorry life is too short and there’s 0 necessity to do it. So can I assume that you are another version of “Funn” since you make the accusation in the first place kiddo.
Fell bad for yourself Mockinggenius, Connieta. You unleashed a few more aliases to try to debunk what Jayne said. I am unto you. We can spot you from a mile away.
Ganging up will imply Trini and I work together. We are not. Each of us are independently posting, except we are like minded and there are a few here. Somehow neither Trini nor I have your sympathy when there were a few “ganging” up against us or specifically me. We are grieving too, except we do not repeat ad nauseam of a grieving aunt or when all arguments is lost, wishing others to not suffer the same fate. Let’s be fair and play fair.
It is not about ganging up on anyone. I had no intention of getting involved in this, but when I saw how Mockkingenius and her many aliases were going after Funn, it was hard for me to sit back and say nothing.
There is no grieving aunt, yet this person continues to add all these aliases accusing me and Funn of ganging up on a grieving person. How sick can this person get. I may not be like by a lot of people here because I speak the truth about a lot of the idols, and fans don’t like that. I challenge them about the reality of things and they don’t like that. I don’t care.
This Mockinggenius is a bully and a coward. An angry, spiteful, hateful, lonely person who is out to cause trouble for everyone. Only a monster will do the things and say the things she does. Hetieshou, Funn, Larry3, Jayne, Saiying,Crystal,Bubblez, Nomad822,, I hasve to respect these people because they post as themselves all the time. They do not hide behind horsecrap aliases. I am sure they will let us know if they change their moniker. This creature has no such dignity.
Trini, thank you for speaking up. I really appreciate it. But I’d rather not post my appreciation any longer before there will be some others after you for being my so called fan.
You are welcomed Funn Lim. You do what you have to. I respect that. I will continue to step in when I see others trying to bully you or anyone without a just cause. It is appalling w2hat was done to you, especially by ONE individual assuming soooooo many names. Sick, just outright sick. And then to make you look like the heartless monster that she is, created this grieving aunt to rub it into your “insensitive” Funn, haha. Aunt my behind. That was beyond cruel. I will not sit back and see you or anyone have to take such inhumane treatment.
dunt tell us to be fair and play fair when you are not fair at all.
Dancy, yet another demon alias.
@Mockinggenius.
I am no fan of Funn, and I know for a fact Funn does not fancy me either. I just am appalled at what you have to say. You are doing your grieving “aunt” no favors with your behaviour. I never said you were all these people, haha, you said it yourself. Like I told you before, there is a song by the late, great reggae KING Bob Marley, who the cap fits, let them wear it. Obviously it fits you. Have a good day, and save your energy for your grieving aunt. Right now she needs all the family support she can get.
@Trini: I don’t find a need to argue with you. “See no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil.”. I will leave it to the other people who have read your comments to make judgements if they are interested. By writing your grieving “aunt” I can see what you want to imply. I am almost tempted to give you the names of her family but then I tell myself only fool will continue an argument with another. An intelligent discussion is much more productive. Have a nice Monday.
“only fool will continue an argument with another. An intelligent discussion is much more productive….” We have seen many calamities in Asia. In the face of difficulties the Japanese for example were very calm and organised. This is a rare first insight into the Chinese people. Nobody has the monopoly on grief, and rational people of the world do not curse and swear like that period.
Go get help. only fool here is you
My comment was meant for Sadeyes. The only fool here is you.
Are you that sick Trini… WHo’s talking to you? Do you know how stupid you are looking here? JUst F off my back and get lost!
Calm down Sadeyes…get a chill pill !
Yes, you are right. I will see no evil, hear no evil. Thanks for the advice. I will not reply to you. I do not want the name of the “family”. I prefer to feel sympathy for real people. I like to speak my mind, and keep things real. Do not waste my time with a fantasy family.
請問她是認真嗎, 不是笑話嗎???
有些人應該給它休息. 現在, 評論沒用.
她希望人們認同她說的話，但是, 當人們拒絕，她逃到她的博客. 當人們叫她卑劣名，這是她的責任欺負他們。
@ROXY
Hold on one minute. Where did I say that Iva was trolling us. NEVER DID I SAY THAT. Are you lacking in skills to read and understand what you have read, or are you trying to pit Iva against me, like you tried to pit others here against each other. I see another demon has emerged from the thousand alias dragon, hahahahaha!!. Smart people will pick up on my post, and it had nothing to do with accusing Iva of trolling.
I see yet another of the demons have emerged. If you had a dollar for every alias you create, you would be filthy, stinking rich. Feel sorry for yourself. You noticed that others would figure out from my answer to Iva what is going on, so you decided to stir the pot, accuse me of calling Iva a troll, while at the same time trying to distract others from what you are really up to
Feel sorry for yourself, you are a destructive monster.. Where is your paint loosener alias, or the one named after the bird found in the Tropics that is no Einstein? Not as smart as you think. I’m onto you.
@Trini:
Can these people who are told their loved ones has died without any solid evidence/confirmed debris grief in a dignified way?
I’m laughing when reading all the comments here. So what if he wants to boycott all Malaysian products and tourism? That is his right to do so. And then you haters hated him and said it was mainland chinese irrational mentality, Malaysian and other countries lost their family members too, blah blah blah.
Firstly, many people in western countries,in particular America, want to boycott many things over a small matter. Are they much more irrational? This incident involves people’s lives and human rights, so don’t be surprised if majority of people that died on the plane were american and then an american actor said he wanted to throw a bomb at Malaysia. This mainland actor already gave ‘face’ to Malaysians by saying he wanted to boycott your products only.
Secondly, “Don’t Blow Up My Anger” means “don’t exaggerate my words”. He asked the media to not create any false news or any negative news.
Thirdly, not many products made in Malaysia could be found outside of Malaysia, and even in Malaysia, the Malaysia products are not the top as well when it comes to quality and quantity. The China’s products, the Thailand’s products, the Japanese products, and the European products outweigh the Malaysian products in terms of quality and quantity.
Fourthly, majority of mainland people came over Malaysia, Genting in particular, just for gambling. Not many mainland people came to Malaysia for tourism.
My conclusion is that it is his right to say what he feels and to boycott what he wants, for at the end of the day, it doesn’t affect you based on the point number 3 and number 4 that I said above. You guys should consider his and the Mainland people’s feelings considering majority of the passengers were from China and your Prime Minister irresponsible act.
I mean, your Prime Minister’s irresponsible act.
確實!
I sound like a broken record for having repeated this three times. On your third point – Malaysia exports to many countries. Its top export destinations are Singapore, China, Japan, EU and the US. So Msia raw products can be found outside Msia in major economies. Malaysia is one of the world’s top producer of rubber and palm oil. A lot of products may not be made in Msia per se, but a lot of components like the rubber tubing of washing machine and other household appliances, car tires may come from Msia rubber. Many household products like soap and detergent are made from palm oil imported from Msia. These are not top quality end products; they are components of the end product. Like mockinggenius said, the iPhone 5s are assembled in China, but this doesn’t make the phone any less inferior.
And yes Chen Kun is entitled to what he wants to say and what he wants to boycott. I too am entitled to think that he is naive.
Primrose,
Interesting point! Come to the US, and you will find 99% are not the Malaysian products.
According to the US trade rep website,
U.S. imports of agricultural products from Malaysia totaled $1.9 billion in 2012, making Malaysia our 17th largest supplier of agriculture imports. Leading categories include: tropical oils ($1.3 billion), cocoa paste and cocoa butter ($148 million), and rubber products ($132 million).
Primrose,
Provide as many statistics, graphs, tables, websites, charts, links, etc as you want, but I will just look at the reality, the truth, and the facts.
Oops, I was just rereading your comment, and it seems that you were just specializing in agriculture. No wonder your argument is absurd to me. I’d say it again: I will only accept points that I could see with my own eyes in real life, not something that is summarized in statistics.
@qwerty. Of course if you are looking for Made in Msia end products, you won’t see it. But Msian cocoa butter can be found in chocolates, toiletries and pharmaceuticals. Msian rubber is used to make Good Year tire, but everyone knows Good Year tire as an American product.
Anyway, I am not a Chen Kun hater. I have nothing against him posting whatever he posted because he is entitled to his opinion. I just think his statement on the boycott Msian products is naive.
@Primrose, thumbs up for supporting your points with facts and figures. Too bad it may be wasted on those whose mind is already made up not to ‘see’ it.
Chen Kun has the right to hate everything about Malaysia, boycott the country and its tourism. Of course. But he should have kept it to himself and not announced it to his 70 million + Weibo followers, because that would influence his fans emotions and instigate others to follow suit. This is his purpose, otherwise why announce his boycott publicly?
So, likewise, Malaysians are free to hate Chen Kun and boycott him for his statements. Like, if someone comes up to you and says, “Your mother is ugly and retarded!” – are you going to be all friendly to him and say, “Well, good for you for telling me that, I respect your opinion”? If so, you are abnormal. Most people would be insulted and punch that rude person in the face for talking smack about their mother.
See, you can’t defend a person’s right to make a hateful remark and then get all upset when others slam him for that ignorant and insensitive remark. Malaysians feel offended when outsiders make unfair judgements about our country, even while we ourselves feel frustrated with our government and and its inept politicians. We know that the Malaysian govnt has a lot of shortcomings, but so does the Chinese govnt. There is a saying – People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Why don’t these Chinese actors make smart ass remarks about their own country? Freedom of speech works both ways. Sure, Chen Kun can say whatever he wants to about Malaysia, but he better be prepared because Malaysians ARE going to judge him for it.
I’ll end with these words of wisdom – Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought of as a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt!
You don’t need to follow a celebrity to know what is happening. You just need to type in #MH370, #Prayfor370, #MAS370 to know what the people around the world is saying.
And your point is? I don’t follow any celebrities Weibo, FYI. I know where to get my news updates on MH370, thank you very much.
Expressing your opinion is different from delivering your hate. What the people commented here were delivering their hate towards this actor. An example: calling somebody has low EQ.
I admire his talent. A very talented actor who sings well and write well too. All his books are very aspiring. This little incident would not change my liking for him.
All this boycott things happen all the time. Didn’t last year people also call for boycott on Japanese products? Japan survived, so Malaysians, don’t worry, you can survive this ordeal. The only problem is we will have our pockets burn bcos after this our lovely government will definately after go us for money.
Well, @Qwerty, I hope I answer your passive aggressive reference to my own active response by saying that I don’t hate Chen Kun. In fact, I barely pay attention to him.
But he needs to check what he says. He is a public figure after all. And if he expresses judgment towards another, then others also have a right to judge him. If he doesn’t want that to happen, he needs to work on his EQ and figure out what exactly he’s angry about and how to resolve things in a constructive way, not blast his anger towards others via tweet to N# of fans.
MonCheri,
So public figures are not allowed to be political and have their own opinions and express it publicly? Expressing judgments towards another? Since when everyone in every country judged the Malaysian government when it is CLEARLY that the Malaysian government has done something inappropriate.
First of all, I’m not a fan of China. In fact, I don’t really like China (but not to the extent of hating it) considering its political ugliness and human rights records. I’m not a fan of this actor, or that brainless Zhang Ziyi, or any other celebrities that publicly expresses…’judgements’ towards another either, for I don’t really worship celebrities (I only hate celebrities). And I’m certainly not anti-Malaysia as I’m currently working in Malaysia as an expat. Nevertheless, reading all the comments here, I did really find that majority of Malaysians here were really biased in this incident and delivered a lot of hate when a person expressed his or her disappointment over the Malaysian government’s irresponsible yet unprofessional action. The worst part is that after delivering their hate to the person, they would argue that the person should prepare the consequence as others also had a right to judge him or her despite what they were doing was hate.
I mean, it is CLEAR that the Malaysian government has done something inappropriate!
exactly.
Chen Kun has the right to hate everything about Malaysia, boycott the country and its tourism. Of course. But he should have kept it to himself and not announced it to his 70 million + Weibo followers, because that would influence his fans emotions and instigate others to follow suit. This is his purpose, otherwise why announce his boycott publicly?
Are you Chen Kun? If not, how can you say that was his purpose?
@Qwerty,
Chen Kun has a right to express his opinions. But maybe he should’ve argued the facts – i.e., the department of transportation was irresponsible, the prime minister is evasive, and the reports unreliable. Argue the facts, NOT throw reckless responses and target an entire country. He’s not just commenting on the government’s ineptitude, but he’s also possibly putting millions of people’s livelihood at stake as well.
For a public figure, he can’t just say things and not take responsibility for them. That doesn’t make him better than the Malaysian govt.
Agree @qwerty
majority of Malaysians here were really biased and harsh…
I wonder if this Malaysia face?
@qwerty
I am not defending the Malaysian govnt. From the very first few days after the plane disappeared, the M’sian govnt and MAS have bungled up their response to this crisis and handled the press conference rather poorly, giving contradictory statements and showing a lack of leadership. If you look back at the original article here at Jaynestars, I criticised the M’sian govnt for conducting the SAR in a haphazard way and giving Malaysia a poor image.
My quibble here is when you say “haters are gonna hate” as if that applies only to the Malaysians here who’ve criticised Chen Kun. When a public figure makes a judgemental statement about a whole country and its people, he’s got to expect some backlash. Hostility begets hostility. Simple as that.
As for the term haters? This also applies to those angry chinese netizens who’ve targeted Malaysian celebrities like Fish Leung, Gary Chaw etc. Just because of their nationality, even though they had NOTHING to do with the plane tragedy, nor did they make any controversial public statement like your smart-ass (or not so smart) Chen Kun did, further inflaming tensions between nations. Why are you not calling these Chinese netizens haters, lopsided much? Haters gonna hate right? Who started the hate first? Hmmm…
Let’s see the timeline of events here – MH370 disappears, mainland Chinese blame Malaysian authorities, target Malaysian artists, want to retaliate against Malaysia, even chinese celebrities call for boycott of Malaysian goods, Malaysians respond with “FU! We don’t need your chinese movies and cheap products either!” And your conclusion is Malaysians are the haters? Ok, whatever. I don’t need to be a Malaysian to see that most Malaysians are only speaking up to defend their fellow countrymen who were unfairly targeted. No one is saying that the Malaysian govnt is free from blame. Regardless of the cause of this incident, the M’sian govnt and MAS will pay out huge sums of compensation to the NOK of all on board MH370, and the M’sian people will the ones suffering the financial burden at the end of the day because this is taxpayers money used to bail out MAS.
@Moncheri
Well said. There is constructive criticism and then there is just blanket bashing an entire country, which doesn’t help matters at all (except perhaps to gain some cheap publicity and headlines for said actor). I’m all for putting the complacent M’sian authorities on the spot by the international media to make them accountable for their baffling statements. The good thing that will come out of this tragedy is that Malaysia and its neighbouring countries like Singapore and Thailand are reviewing their airport security measures as there are obvious and alarming loopholes. It is a fact that human trafficking is rampant in this part of the world.
@teresa
Uh, I don’t need to be Chen Kun to draw my own conclusion on why he needed to publicly announce his boycott of Malaysia on his weibo. Public figures have the power to influence their followers, Chen Kun knows that very well.
Felicity, well said and thank you.
Chen Kun has the internet freedom to express herself. Who are these netizens to bash him for it just because they feel butthurt by it?
@Felicity,
I am just wondering, are you Malaysian?? Great posts and very well said… I was just reading news and many netizens were attacking Fish Leong and said that they would ban her from China and all just because she is Malaysian. What is up with all of the negativity with Malaysians??
@ HeTieShou
I am Malaysian born, yes, though I spend most my time working and living in Australia now. I still have a lot of relatives and friends in Malaysia and keep up with the pulse of Malaysian news online.
The interesting irony about the excessive bashing from China is that it has united Malaysians to defend their country more firmly, where in the early days many were critical about the Malaysian govnt’s chaotic response.
Below are a couple of related news articles you can read to learn more about the complex ties and tension between Malaysia and China –
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/world/asia/chinas-missing-flight-malaysian-backlash.html?ref=world&_r=0
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/10733840/MH370-China-tells-victims-families-do-not-let-anger-prevail-over-facts.html
felicity:
How credible is the news portal below? I like the well written article below.
http://www.thestar.com.my/Opinion/Columnists/On-The-Beat/Profile/Articles/2014/03/30/When-emotions-take-over/
@ clamine
The Star newspaper is one of the oldest dailies in Malaysia with the highest English readership in the country. This newspaper has seen better days (years ago, the paper had its license revoked along with a few other dailies for its sharp commentary on political issues). The Star is a govnt owned newspaper now and has to tow the line when it comes to reporting on ‘sensitive’ national topics. But to answer your question, yes this is a credible news portal – and the writer of this column is one of the most senior and respected journalists in Malaysia. His columns are often quite incisive, and I agree with you that this was a good read.
Exactly what many of us have been saying again and again and again except more eloquently.
Another new “news” about what the pilot (not sure who they said) said. This is getting out of hand. I just received a 3 page rant in BM about US-China-Taliban involvement with the missing plane hidden somewhere in Maldives. How can we expect others not to condemn us when we ourselves do the very same thing? And our govt can’t be helped I tell you, different statement different day and yet another Malay paper now denies the head of that aviation ever said what the pilot said. At this point with so many things said, no one is sure what has been said or denied anymore.
However yes Star Newspaper portal is credible, except like felicity said, you can say it leans towards pro govt most of the time.
There goes my tax and epf money.. 🙁
this for you, Chen Kun
SAUPEI LARRR
thank you.
Not all mainland Chinese is unreasonable.
Ex:
In Beijing before they boarded the flight, one relative said they would demand to meet the prime minister and the defence minister, who is the chief spokesman for the government.
“We have questions that we would like to ask them in person,” said Wang Chunjiang, whose younger brother, lawyer Wang Chunyong, was on Flight 370.
“We know what we can do is insignificant, but we will do whatever we can do for our beloved ones,” said Wang, who was unable to make the trip because of a family issue. “We want to know what could have happened to them in the six hours the plane kept flying, and if they had to endure any mental and physical pains.”
He said some relatives were hoping for a miracle. “It cannot be completely ruled out before we see the wreckage of the plane or the bodies of our loved ones.”
exactly
Yes, I know not all mainland Chinese are unreasonable. My heart and sympathies goes out to all the families, friends and loved ones of the passengers and crew members on board MH370. I feel especially sorry for those aged parents who lost their only child, not just the Chinese but also a Malaysian Indian who lost his only son, who is the sole breadwinner in the family. It is also very sad to hear about that Chinese family who lost 3 generation of family members. I can’t imagine the pain these people are going through. This is a terrible loss for many and they need all our prayers and support.
China also does not have a great government either, so do they qualify to bash the Malaysian government???
Yeah there corruption in every country but right now this about the mh370.
See, as much as I don’t think it’s wise for a PUBLIC figure to make dissonant comments, on the other hand, publicized comments like Chen Kun’s do exert pressure and accountability for countries like Malaysia. Just like when America make comments about the reliability of Chinese products, they also put pressure on Chinese producers to check themselves.
Without pressure to change, many are happy to be at the status quo. So sometimes good things do come from negative actions.
intensify the people who have a neg. perception of malaysia and the levels of corruption within its gov’t.
Was about to say.. Chinese gov is just as corrupted >_>
If you hate Chen Kun (and Chinese) for what he said which is TRUE and for expressing his anger and sadness…
So why can’t Chinese hate Malaysia government (and to the extent all ‘Malaysia’ related) for its gov & authority continuation incompetent,negligence, contradiction, irresponsible and inappropriate.
These people are grieving tremendously, and apparently, not in their right state of mind.
If you mad just because of his comment, Can you imagine the heart-break the victim families member must be going through??? Truly painful times!
So before you pointing out at Chen Kun, WHY CAN YOU SEE YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR???
Beside, People act irrationally when they’re sad, emotional and angry. An artist is also a human~
The Malaysian government officially announced that Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 had crashed into the Indian Ocean without any survivors. Prime Minister Najib Razak’s announcement was made without evidence, and no wreckage or body has been found.
Imagine.. If your family on the plane what your reaction?
Really stupid, ignorance and irresponsible Prime Minister!!
Also What is all comment about grieved loudly and hysterically???
Everyone/every nation has different act and culture. Not saying that, this is NOT normal incident.
And most of the victims are Chinese. The Chinese families member gather together in tremendous grieved. When people gather together they will affect each others and have more power >> including power to grieve, upset, angry!
When others nation victims beside MAS and Chinese, are grieving in their own home, and they also have different culture to react.
Please respect other culture!!!
The mystery of not knowing exactly what happened is very painful. They will live uncertainty through their entire life.
IT IS common sense to understand how they must be feeling…
ps. FYI I’m not from China.
U should move out from malaysia if u cant even support ur own country.. Dont like prime minister u can get lost to china.. U already get new prime minister on the sport
Mei Lui Fong,
I have have enough of our politician saying this. Move out of Malaysia if u don’t agree to our education system. Don’t drive if u don’t agree with petrol price hike. Don’t stay here if u hate BN. You are as naive as those politicians for saying this.
I agree with you. I was also saddened when I first saw his post but realising how terrible the way Malaysia handle thos, I won’t blame him.
they u should move out to china and stay with him then
Mei Lui Fong,
I would keep it short since u don’t worth a second of my time. You just show the world that you are not only naive but stupid as well.
Fox News and CNN are the most corrupt, unreliable news outlets in North America.
Cool down guys and gals. Let us all pray for all on board RIP = Return if Person. Amitaphu
I see various aliases, by the same person who has a troubling history on our site, make unrelated personal remarks towards Funn again. Comments will be deleted.
Let’s debate about flight MH370 rather than use it as an opportunity for personal vendettas.
I know I am not a right person to say this but I feel that as a public figure, he should be more careful with his choice of words since he has a lot of followers on his Weibo account and could influence those who follow especially the people that believe everything they read or see without thinking it logically/rationally.
You guys have issues. Chen Kun has freedom to say what he wants! Why must you people be so butthurt by what he says? So what if he’s asking his China people to boycott the Malaysians because he has that right! Someone has to take the blame for the incompetence and slowness in finding MH370 and of course it should be Malaysians because the plane is Malaysian plane. I know that Tony Abbot is willing to share the responsibility but I guess this is just one of his political tactics. I don’t get why some want China Southern airlines to share the responsibility they only sell the tickets to the Chinese and not owning the plane. The truth is the Malaysians has to be reaponsible and that’s what the Chinese wants hence the protests and angers! Everyone grief differently and just because the Malaysians and other nationalities grief in silence you can’t expect the Chinese who has a different culture to be the same. Imagine losing your family on the flight without bodies and without proper explanation. They just want to know the possible causes and what could’ve happen and wants a closure. Why bash Chen Kun for this? Chen Kun just want to boycott Malaysia, he’s not the one who insults Fish Leong and her baby.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=625553207519999…see carefully
June, thanks for the link! Finally some support, some sense, some reasonable statement. In light of this here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2593083/Australian-prime-minister-confirms-hope-lost-missing-Malaysian-Airlines-flight-MH370-says-owe-families-searching.html as well, I feel there is a change of tone from China with the recent backlash from Malaysia.
thanks….Funn Lim…for the artical…appriciate
@Bubblez
Well said. Two thumbs up. Whether Chinese want to boycott Malaysian products is their choice. Does this Chen Kunt think he is God to tell people what to do. He is not even a politician.
He does have the right to express his anger and concern about the flight and what happened and how it was handled. Telling people what to do is not his business. He is not even an authority figure.
He never ask others to boycott Malaysia. He already stressed in his weibo he represent himself only. Read his weibo carefully.
GG
I also agree with Bubblez. Chan Kun can, of course, say whatever he wants, but, as a classy artiste, he should keep it (anger) to himself.
I also agree with Bubblez. It is true that Chen Kun can say what he wants,BUT as a public figure, he needs to be more careful about what he says and how she says it. Just a slight twist of tongue can cause so many problems,misunderstandings and issues.
On facebook,the malaysian chinese are not even big fan of their government or do they type irresponsible defensive comment unlike the comment here are anonymous.
Wow, that was a very heated discussion. The Malaysian Government at most, had been inefficient and inept and had bungled up the investigation but please understand, Malaysia is not equipped to deal with this kind of catastrophe. If 26 countries with their special computers etc cannot solve it still, Malaysia is even less equipped to do so. There were parents lost in here too but much as we dislike our current government, I doubt they would go to the extent of bombing their own plane and people nor would they neglect rescuing if only they knew how to. While each and everyone of us have a right to express our anger and sadness, do let’s do it rationally. If these were expressions by those directly involved, we can accept the are distraught but those not directly involved, well, if we cannot contribute to the solution then let’s not contribute to the problems. Words are dirt cheap, armchair analysts an easy job.
an airline and airport security, even developing or not, airport security procedures should not be inept or lax.
Malaysia is a small country that is not equipped to handle a catastrophe of this size. One can say that the ministers and people involved were inept and inefficient but not purposely neglecting to rescue. If 26 countries with some of them having very sophisticated equipments cannot figure it out, can Malaysia do it? It doesn’t absolve them from responsibility but it also isn’t fair to bring hate into the picture. Please understand, there are also many families here who have lost one or both parents, only sons and spouses. The grief is not less than anyone else. Even for us with no connection to anyone on the plane feel the sadness as we all have family ties too and understand the magnitude of the loss. I wake up each morning checking the web hoping for good news and have said many prayers for those on board and those waiting. The Malaysian government isn’t well-liked here but they would not go to the extend of purposely not rescuing people on board one of these own planes, that’s just not our nature. If harsh words are said by those who are distraught, we understand but those who are not directly involved should not make matetrs worse. If we cannot contribute to the solution, then let is not contribut to the problem. Talk is dirt cheap, armchair analysis an easy job, pointing fingers even easier. May you have a nice day.
‘Malaysia is a small country that is not equipped to handle a catastrophe of this size.’
That’s not a requisite reason. Look at the 1977 incident. Why is the airport security licentious when in 1977, there was a hijack event. to this day, nobody comphrends the aggregate truth. regular person would have think the airport security would be pious after the 1977 incident.
yup
I agree with those who think that the ‘celebrities’, whom they are no longer to me now because of their untoward remarks about the Malaysian Government. As public figures they should have been more tactful in what they say and not try to rouse feelings of further anger in others. Whatever faults it may have and will make, Malaysia is doing it’s best to solve the mystery of MH370’s disappearance. Please be patient and not make uncalled for remarks.