Ruco Chan and Phoebe Sin Announce Daughter’s Birth!
Congratulations! Ruco Chan (陳展鵬) and Phoebe Sin (單文柔) have welcomed their baby daughter Quinta, who they nicknamed “Little Piggy” (小豬比).
The couple respectively announced the good news on Easter Sunday, April 21st, through their Instagram pages. Quinta was most likely born some days before, as new photos of Phoebe on her 29th birthday (April 19th) showed the TVB starlet without a pregnant belly.
“Ruco and I are so happy!” Phoebe told the press. “I feel happiness and bliss when I look at her. She’s always smiling. So adorable! I hope she’ll grow up healthily!”
On asking who Quinta resembles more, she said, “Sometimes she looks more like me, sometimes more like Ruco.”
Ruco stayed with Phoebe throughout her delivery process, and even had the opportunity to cut her umbilical cord. As Quinta was delivered via C-section, Phoebe was under general anesthesia. She did remember that Ruco had tried to make her laugh, asking questions like why the baby had curly hair and providing her with direct commentary. “Wow, now she’s vomiting white foam!” he had said. Phoebe couldn’t help but to laugh.
On naming their daughter, Phoebe shared, “Quinta was a name suggested by my younger sister. I think it’s a great name! Q is right in between P and R. It represents that her parents will always be there to protect her.” Phoebe has already begun breastfeeding Quinta.
Ruco and Phoebe tied the knot last October, when Phoebe was already a few months pregnant. They confirmed their pregnancy in November.
This article is written by Addy for JayneStars.com.
Congrats Ruco and Phoebe! I’m so happy for you
Fun fact: Quinta is Portuguese! Now let’s see if people is gonna bash Phoebe and Ruco like they did to Kevin and Grace! Also, not a great name for a girl, sorry!
@littlefish quinta sounds weird especially for baby girl. well it’s just like Kevin naming his son after his tennis idol.
can’t imagine my idol has become a father. the little girl is so cute.
@janet72
It’s another horrendous name. Just like Quintus it sounds like an Ancient Roman name or panish. Either way hey just forced found a Q name for the sake of it….
@jimmyszeto according to Google it’s a Spanish name meaning “born fifth “. Now I’m really wondering if the Chans are aping the Chengs as someone here mentioned.
@passingby2
Well Ruco is certainly disappointed that the wedding and birth of child of Kevin vrs Grace has stolen the limelight although Ruco tried to make fight for it by broadcasting his wedding and announcing of sex of child on TV. The reality is that Pheobe is not a celebrity but he tried to build her up into one while Kevin and Grace and actual lead artistes. For the 50th time in a month they have explained the Q goes between the R and the P. Why are they so obsessed with this? Publicity seeking stunt?
@jimmyszeto also Quinn is a nicer name for the girl. Quinta is actually a girl name, did a bit of google last night, however, it ranks like 5000+ lol, whereas Quinn is like 50ish lol! They have to be different…. so yea, a lot more pretentious than Kevin and Grace I have to say, because we all know Kevin love tennis, so understandable (many tennis fans name their child after a tennis player or if a tennis player has the same name, they then become a fan, happen with stefanos).
@jimmyszeto grace is annoying….but what Kevin/grace and ruco/Phoebe have in common is a shotgun marriage.
yes…I agree with you about the Q between R and P.
the crap about parents protecting the child.
the subsequent kids will also have names starting with Q?
Congrats to them! Very beautiful pictures. I remember my non-sentimental husband holding our babies like that with the same expression of unconditional love and awe.
Quinta wouldn’t be my choice for a name, but whatever makes them happy.
Congrats!
Quinta is as bad as Quintus. Seriously, how do celebrities come up with these names? Wait… it’s made up. Eww
@babycakes actually it’s not made up nor came up by them it was suggested by Phoebe’s sister
@jcc10 great. The sister had the honour of making … errr.. coming up with such a stupid name!
@babycakes Quinta Chan… lol
@jcc10 seriously. my eyes have rolled so far back that they are now stuck. Thank you
@babycakes Quinta is an actual name though. Not very common, but I know there’s a Quinta who works at Buzzfeed, I see her a lot in their videos
@jcc10
The TA and Cha sounds so similar that the name becomes a tongue twister…
@babycakes actually quintus is a nicer name than Quinta.
Quinta is indeed Portuguese. It means Thursday. I suppose their baby was born on Thursday..
@aplha123 Uhm, it mean estate? Villa?
@littlefish Quinta means Thursday…
@littlefish To say in full Thursday is Quinta feira. But here in Brazil we say short form is Quinta.. the fifth day of the week. We consider Sunday is first day of the week.
@aplha123 i see, apparently in Portuguese, it means farm house. In Spanish it means born fifth (aka the fifth child). Anyway, it’s not English :p and still weird, to name your daughter Thursday lol!
@littlefish not sure if you’re joking or not. I don’t think they’re trying to name their daughter “Thursday” as there are many meanings to a name
@aplha123 Sunday happens to be the name of one of Nicole Kidman’s daughter.
@janet72 I was thinking which celebrity named their children with day. You got it!
Once again I hate that parents start telling the whole world the nickname they have for their child. Why did Ruco have to make her laugh during the delivery anyway? This wasn’t the process of natural birth.
@jimmyszeto Usually during a C-section there is a tense (for parents) time period when the doctors are prepping/sterilizing the mother’s skin, making the incision, and getting the baby out. The mother can’t see what’s going on because there is a anesthesia drape between her and the surgeon. She actually doesn’t get to see the baby come out. Fathers can stand up and look if desired.
Sometimes babies are stunned when born and don’t cry immediately. Those couple minutes while the doctor is helping them can be excruciating.
So it sounds like Ruco was trying to diffuse the tension and ease her until they show her the baby.
@potatochip Thank you. Men just don’t know what each mother goes thruough during child labour
@potatochip
That’s why women should have natural birth if they can. The baby is ready to come out…
@potatochip What you described here is for a C-sect birth which the mother is conscious, for eg by using epidural. But this article said that the mother was under general anesthesia, which means she was completely unconscious when the baby was being delivered.
@prettysup1 I think the article got the medical terminology wrong. If she were under general anesthesia, she wouldn’t be able to laugh. She wouldn’t be able to remember Ruco talking to her. You’re right that she wouldn’t be conscious, and he wouldn’t even be awake and was actually intubated.
It is very rare that the mother is put to sleep for C-sections. They are mostly done with a spinal. It is more rare for mom to be under general, and if so, something medically serious was going on.
I suppose if she were under general, then Ruco may be describing the delivery to her after she has woken up and awaiting the baby. He is still trying to ease her while she anxiously awaits to see her daughter.
@potatochip I guess Ruco was trying to ease her tension and fear. it’s scary to be lying on the operating table under the lights.
@jimmyszeto just trying his best to portray himself as a doting hubby? So far in all his interviews he’s been going on and on about how much he feels his wife is suffering/suffered during her pregnancy…..as if she’s the only woman ever to have to go through the pains of pregnancy.
@passingby2
Pheobe didn’t experience the pain of pushing the baby out though. So at least Ruco can’t pretend that she went through an excruciating procedure of the baby coming out…
@jimmyszeto I agree, vaginal delivery is always best if possible. But about 25-30% of women have C-sections and most of these are medically necessary. I say most, because in the States, doctors are only suppose do them if indicated and don’t do them on parent’s wishes.
I don’t know why she had a C-section, but likely there is a medical reason. We may assume that they chose the dates, but as much as over-sharers they are, people are still reluctant to talk about medical problems. In general, people don’t want to be considered weak for having medical issues. So we can’t assume they chose a C-section, but the more likely scenario is that they had to have a C-section.
And C-sections are not an easy way out. If it is an induction which failed and went to C-section, the mother had to suffer through hours to days of contractions and staying in the hospital. And she is starving because she can’t eat during this time. She is tired and uncomfortable. Sometimes, mom is already trying to push the baby out and has been pushing for some time before it is determined a C-section is needed. And usually, it is a longer and harder recovery. It is a surgery afterall. Yes, the v-aginal area is not stretched out, but overall, women have recovered well from that. I find C-sections much more frightening than natural delivery.
@jimmyszeto My other comment is under moderation, so hopefully it doesn’t post twice. It’s silly that I have to remove the proper medical term for a women’s private area because internet filters are too sensitive.
@jimmyszeto I agree, v delivery is always best if possible. But about 25-30% of women have C-sections and most of these are medically necessary. I say most, because in the States, doctors are only suppose do them if indicated and don’t do them on parent’s wishes.
I don’t know why she had a C-section, but likely there is a medical reason. We may assume that they chose the dates, but as much as over-sharers they are, people are still reluctant to talk about medical problems. In general, people don’t want to be considered weak for having medical issues. So we can’t assume they chose a C-section, but the more likely scenario is that they had to have a C-section.
And C-sections are not an easy way out. If it is an induction which failed and went to C-section, the mother had to suffer through hours to days of contractions and staying in the hospital. And she is starving because she can’t eat during this time. She is tired and uncomfortable. Sometimes, mom is already trying to push the baby out and has been pushing for some time before it is determined a C-section is needed. And usually, it is a longer and harder recovery. It is a surgery afterall. Yes, the v area is not stretched out, but overall, women have recovered well from that.
Unless medically necessary, it is not as good for the baby. So mothers will have that guilt. I find C-sections much more frightening than natural delivery.
@potatochip
The percentage is close to 99% c section for HK celebs though.
@passingby2
Exactly and all women go through it but sadly some do not have any support while some get pampered and all. It is not fair sadly.
@jimmyszeto my real question is what’s up with all these C-section? Where are the natural birth???
@littlefish
Maybe they “chose “ a time of birth that they think is good? Remember Cecilia doing it for her sons? Maybe that is the case here.
@littlefish
Because they are scared to have natural birth..
@littlefish cos C-section is less damaging to the anatomy if you know what I mean lol. They’re afraid their men will lose interest in them perhaps?
@littlefish
i got to tell you. i had both (c-sect and natural) and i truly regret ever going through a natural birth. the recovery was way longer and somethings will never go away despite what you do.
@m0m0 Yea…the toil it puts on the bodies after giving birth naturally is not worth (from what Ive heard).
If there’s a choice best to go for the c-sect. Healthcare is advanced enough to provide a safe option to do so these days.
What do you get for doing the natural birth? Excruciating pain for hours, scars and permanent changes in the body. All for what? Badge of honour to say you have endured a natural childbirth?
@m0m0 Uhm, I think that’s the misconception? Natural birth is actually less trauma to the body than c-section? Just like what @potatochip talked before, there are cases where C-section is necessary. However, it’s not a procedure that is chosen first. Currently, it’s believed that natural birth is better for the baby. I know many who has natural birth and they literally bounced back within 3 days. C-section – if your baby is heavy, you might not be able to carry the baby long, due to the surgery. Plus complication after that. For natural birth, the complication is how big is the tear. Of course, if you have to do emergency c-section then you get it the worst way, having to deal with both.
And I agree they should feel freely to talk more about the birthing process.
Also in case you haven’t heard, natural birth is good because as the baby goes through the birth canal, she/he picks up good bacterial, biome from the mother, which helps their immune system and have a lot better gut bacterial.
That’s why we don’t bath baby as soon as she/he out either, and have him/her (dry off from the blood, yes, but no other cleaning) like that for a few days. Just like breastfeeding is best for baby, but asian still thinks formula is better. The mindset can be changed if people can talk more freely about the birth process.
@hetieshou that’d be very sad if it’s the main reason why 🙁 I was wondering if Kevin and Grace picked valentine to be Rafael’s birth day :/ that child will get 1 less present or many awkward moment :p it’s your birthday, I’m not in love with you, get that right ;D
@littlefish
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experiences. I have not had kids yet but my late mom had 9 of us and we were all natural birth except for my little brother and he was the last one. My late mom hates C sections and prefers natural birth. She thinks C sections should only be for emergencies. She told me to always go for natural birth and only go for C sections if I had to.
About milk, my late mom said breast milk is best and formula is just an alternative. She was very experienced and knew best but sadly as she has passed away, she is not around to help or advise me anymore if I ever have kids.
Yes, it is sad if that was why they had a C section. I can totally imagine if one day they wanted their fortune read and the fortune teller asked them their hour, day and year of birth. Then they would ask if it was naturally their day of birth or was it chosen by their parents. That would be strange. I actually saw this scenario in a Korean series where many women were trying to pick a good time for birth and demanding C sections so their kids can be president. Oh goodness….
By the way, Michelle Ye’s birthday is on Valentines Day. I wonder if her parents chose it? Hm…
@hetieshou your mother is a wise woman, and has a great attitude. One of my friends literally look down on the breastfeeding issue even though she’s a nurse >_< I understand that when other push for breastfeeding, the mom who chose not to, can feel ashamed, but when it’s your profession, you need to understand why the need for such push. We have enough problems with auto-immune disease, and allergies, and obese, that’s why we are trying our best to go back to the natural way. And it’s fine if you have a misperception, you can always change for your next child, the main thing is not avoiding the issue and be totally closed minded about it
@littlefish
Thanks and my mom was a wise woman a very selfless mother. I was truly lucky to have such a wonderful mother but lost her too soon. She thinks women who refuse to breastfeed are either too lazy or just too focused on work so do not have time. Breastfeeding is tiring and is not an easy task. My mom breastfed most of us and said that breast milk is best so I do not understand why people now look down on it. I bet they are either lazy or just misinformed. I agree that we should not avoid or be closeminded about it.
@hetieshou Breastfeeding is great but it is not easy at all. I wouldn’t generalize a mom who doesn’t to be lazy or only care about work.
I was fortunate and was able to breastfeed my 4 kids. But it is painful. And stressful because it obsesses your mind. And there are women who don’t produce enough.
If you have another child,especially a toddler, it is difficult to juggle breastfeeding. You need to have help at home, and most women don’t have partners who equally share baby raising care and will be willing to take over more household duties. Cost of living has increased, so needing to work is a necessity for most women. Employers are not supportive of women needing to pump at work. Women may not have the time or even the space to pump. They also need to figure out how to store the milk before they can transport it home. And women are afraid of being considered a burden to their colleagues.
Imagine doing all this and being exhausted because baby wakes up every 2-3 hrs at night to eat. Add on a baby who may be cluster feeding every 30-60 minutes or just colicky. And it takes 30—60 minutes to feed, burp, change, and settle a baby down each time.
And you are leaking all the time. Your breasts are twice their normal size and uncomfortable.
Sometimes babies are allergic to cows milk. So mom has to restrict her own diet so she can’t have any dairy. Sometimes she can’t even eat any soy or eggs if severe.
It is overwhelming. In the end, fed is best. I was lucky, but I would completely understand why a woman can’t breastfeed.
@potatochip
Of course I know breastfeeding is not easy. Like I have said, my mom had 9 kids and often told me her difficulties which made me very grateful to her so I always took care of my mom at any chance I got to at least thank her for all of her sacrifices as I know she went through a lot. Not everyone that does not breastfeed is lazy, but I am just saying there are women like that. Some of them are my brothers’ wives.
Trust me, I know about it all too well. I had a former friend who I had to end the friendship of 14 years just because of her BS about one parent has to stay home. But what about people who need to work since one income is not enough. She was too privileged to understand others’ difficulties. I know how hard it is to breastfeed, especially for women who need to work. But I must say some women just depend on the formula only as breastfeeding is a lot of work. My late mom told me her difficulties but she said that breast milk is best.
@hetieshou question, since your mom had 9 kids, do you all take turns taking care of her? like a rotation kind of thing? or was that mostly on you?
@coralie
No, it was all me as I am the only girl as they keep on repeating over and over again. It was the same with my dad too. I remember him once peeing all over the floor and one of my brothers whammed on the door while I was using the restroom for me to come out to clean it. I was so mad! I was wondering if they can at least help out for once but no, it was all me.
@hetieshou Tell them to clean it, they have hands. Chores were split between all us siblings even the boys.
@hetieshou Wow, um, not sure why you still help your brother out that much, then? To be honest, your comments always refer to your SILs or female relatives as lazy, but compared to your brothers, they sound about the same.
And the fact your siblings push everything onto you because you’re female, makes me think they’re pretty sexist.
@coralie
I guess I am just too nice and my late mom asked me to as I am filial so I listened to her. Plus I feel sorry for my nephews as their mom is a lazy bum. I have 7 brothers so I was referring to the ones who are married. The ones who are married do a lot while their wives sit on their butt. The single ones are their lazy old self since my mom spoiled them. My parents are sexist in case you did not know yet. My brothers are just mean to me and take advantage of me while treating their stupid wives like queens so they take advantage of it.
@hetieshou i’m sorry to hear you’re treated unfairly.
prior to women’s movement, most women were treated like that, unfortunately. expected to do all the work and not complain. heck, my parents are still like that; my mom does everything while my dad just orders her around. this is why i’m very protective about women’s rights in general.
i see how much emotional and physical labor women has to put up with, while gaining very little returns financially. so nowadays, when women act like men, i.e., are breadwinners, are demanding, don’t do much physically, i don’t see it as wrong. because this is exactly how men treated women. most households nowadays still only has one breadwinner; this is how it’s always worked out. so the breadwinner has the most say in how things are done. maybe when people start wising up about how this is not constructive to a good relationship, and men reflect on their behavior compared to women, things will finally balance out.
@littlefish @hetieshou honestly, i think doing half/half is best. half breastfeed, half formula feed. the reason i’m saying this is because sometimes mother’s milk can be insufficient to the baby’s nutrition if she’s not eating adequately or ingesting enough vitamins. especially mothers who are vegetarians; their bodies might not synthesize enough vitamin b12, which means the baby won’t be getting enough vitamin b12. there can also be micronutrients missing in the mother’s milk that’s unbeknownst to anyone and the baby suffers as a result. of course if the mom takes post-natal vitamins, that might assist with the deficiency, but lots of women don’t feel well with taking multivitamins, so they don’t take them.
there is an advantage to using both in case one of them isn’t sufficient to cover the missing components, i.e., antibodies in mothers’ milk and crucial vitamins in formula.
@coralie
I guess half and half is best these days as I see a number of people doing it.
@coralie half half isn’t bad, especially when you don’t have enough supply, etc. however, unless your body lacks the nutrients, but the baby will pull the nutrients it needs from the mother. That’s why breastmilk is best, it literally priorities the baby’s need over that of a mother, that’s why the mother’s calcium can deplete by half (if not 30%) because of breastfeeding.
The thing about breastfeeding is baby will get all the nutrients he or she needs, whereas formula baby may get excessive amount of something he or she doesn’t. Also there are other negatives such as overfeed baby (leading to formulae baby always chubbier than breastfeeding baby), baby actually has harder time to transition from formula to cow milk, or to solid.
I was 100% breastfeeding, but I expressed to help with the nightfeed and to increase father and son bonding, however, I didn’t response well to the machine (my breasts won’t produce as much as when he sucks on it), so I have to stop because I barely get any milk from the machine.
Half half is next best thing to 100% breastfeeding because it does give the mother a break. But it isn’t better than purely breastfeeding, however, like I said to many moms, you do whatever works for your family. If half half means you get more quality sleep, everything works out better, then do it 🙂 in the end of the day, a happy child is better than a grumpy child 🙂 and a happy mother is better than a cranky mother lol
@potatochip I think what we need is a society embrace working mother who is breastfeeding, and encouraging breastfeeding. My friend went back to work pretty early on, as soon as her maternity leaves end, she was back to work, but in australia, they encourage and support mother who is working. She was expressing all the time at work (she bought a dual electric pump handfree), she was also lucky enough to have a huge supply. I know not many can be as lucky as her in term of the supply, but her workplace and Australia do provide a culture to encourage breastfeeding mother.
In Australia, there is free lactation consultants that will do video conferencing, as well visiting you if you need or let you make an appointment to check whether you do the breastfeeding correctly, I used that service as I have no family members to tell me whether I’m doing anything right. It’s about changing the mindset. Of course, it’s very important to make sure no one simply think not breastfeeding equate to lazy (being stressful at one point due to thinking I don’t have enough supply, so I have to take thristle tablets), but at the same time, we can’t disregard there are people who take the easy way out because they can, and Ignore the open communication and encourage a society that embrace breastfeeding 🙂 if people don’t know, they are lack of experience, not because they are male or female or want to attack women. Before I talked to many moms, I did not know there are so many problems with breastfeeding naturally (your body just don’t produce, baby just can’t latch properly no matter what you do, my son has a way of sucking and I think it’s incorrect, and if I correct it, after 10s, he corrects it to his own way >_> child has a mind of his own, who knew >_>! Etc etc)
@littlefish that is actually not quite true. below are some articles if you want to read about it. if the mother doesn’t ingest enough nutritious food (and her body cannot produce it), they will not be fed to the baby:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29931273.
http://sciencenordic.com/exclusive-breastfeeding-may-cause-b12-deficiency-babies.
and this is the result of someone who doesn’t give their babies enough vital nutrients (namely B vitamins): https://www.lactationlab.com/blog/2017/11/9/vitamin-b12-in-breast-milk.
I only found out about this recently, so I’m very surprised myself. This is why half/half is best. Yes, there is a potential to overfeed baby vitamins in formula, but that’s why it’s only half. I know my diet hasn’t always been healthy or complete in all the vitamins & minerals that a normal adult needs, so if I lactate in the future, I’m probably going this route, just to cover my bases.
@coralie ok, for one, first article is about vegetarian mother -.- and if she doesn’t take in supplement then there’s lay an obvious reason. 2nd, in another of your article, it said the research is from poor countries where malnutrition is the norm -.-
In a normal diet, you get b12 and all your B vitamins from meats, diary and egg products, so your breast milk is pretty good and should be sufficient for your baby. You do not need half and half, but if you feel that’s the best case for your peace of mind, like I said go ahead and do it, but it is not the best, or better than purely breastfeeding (again talking in general and not exclusive cases like vegetarian or 3rd world country with famine). Even the researchers in your reference urge for more studies, and the context of the data/research isn’t clear, before doing any changes to the current practice of beliefs that breastfeeding is the best. Also in the second article, they did not say where the data comes from, and each country has diets that very different from one another, and if the majority of us growing up with purely breastfeeding and we are fine, that speak volumes, anyone who has problem is already been wiped out lol.
On top of all that, idk about HK, but in Australia, we take multivitamin supplements before we try, while pregnant and at least 3-6mo after giving birth, it has folate, iron and all needed vitamins that are essential for the baby (including b12). So given a normal person diet, you should not need to do half and half unless you have known medical issue of not able to produce certain minerals/vitamins. I have a blood test about 3-4 times during my pregnancy, probably more than an average low risk pregnancy person because I have gestation diabetes, but the doctor will tell me to take extra folate or iron if needed, or calcium, etc etc.
Moreover, the paediatrician will want to see the baby a month after he/she was born to make sure that the baby developed normally. Along with regular health check to ensure everything develop normally. So if you have a good system, you do not need half and half. Moreover, currently it’s your judgement that half and half is the best. So far, we only have research indicate purely breastfeeding trump purely bottlefeeding, not much has been done on half and half. And that’s why I don’t stop or say anything bad about half and half because I simply don’t know, but in the same merit, I’m not gonna say it is the best 🙂
And this is from my experience, I’m not sure if I have mentioned it before, so sorry if I’m repeating myself. For my case, I’m purely breastfeeding but I also expressed and fed my son in the bottle with my expressed milk. The problem we run to as we did it was that he started to become lazy, suck less on the breast, because he has it so easy from the bottle. In turn, it caused my supply to go down, overtime I run into the problem of not able to express (as I don’t response well to the machine) and therefore not able to keep up with him. Again not everyone will have my problem of course, but they might have other problems.
I do hope people will just listen to the doctors, you do not need to do half and half, but if it makes you feel at peace, then do it, but keep in mind there might be problem you run into, and in the end of the day, you just have to endure it and go 100% breastfeeding 🙂 while I agree it’s painful and totally exhausting, looking back, it’s the best bond time I have with my son, and sadly I’m not getting that anymore 🙁 he’s more than happy run off from mommy’s hug because it’s a game >_<‘
@littlefish:
The 1st article mentioned: Non-vegetarian lactating women in the United States. That means even as non-vegetarians, at least 20% of them are deficient in B12. This is a U.S. study; sample size is small, but they’re not poor or in a 3rd world country.
In the 2nd article, “and moreover, it’s not only the B12 levels that drop in the breast milk in the first 4-6 months, but also iron, copper, potassium and zinc.” And this is not from another poverty-stricken country.
The article you’re specifically mentioning, the one about 3rd world countries and where they drew the conclusion about insufficient nutrients — that’s nitpicking. The other two articles are not based on poor countries, but in wealthy nations.
And yes, the U.S. also encourages women to take all their multi-vitamins before/during and after pregnancy. But my point is that there are lots of women who don’t necessarily take their multi-vitamins because it makes them sick. I know when I take multis, I get very sick and uncomfortable. And i’ve tried a lot of them.
Even if the mother takes her daily multis, there’s no way to prove the nutrients are being transferred to her milk adequately and therefore, hard to say if the baby absorbed the full spectrum of vitamins they need. You mentioned blood test, but that’s during your pregnancy and not after, when knowing the composition of vitamins and minerals in your blood supply is crucial for understanding if your little one is being fed well also.
I agree it’s hard to say if one is better than the other, but to me I think the best compromise is doing half/half. That’s purely my opinion, but I have those studies which backs up my point. I’m offering another perspective to the BF/formula debate and I prefer to go the middle.
@coralie Uhm, when I listed one of your source is not a great reference, I’m nitpicking :/? Anyway, even considering ignore that one, and just based on your two studies, the sample size are small, and the recommendation is still need further study, and no real changing to the current practice.
Just also to point out, considering we, the human race have gotten to today, without the need of formula until like let say 200 years ago, by purely breast milk, that means we don’t really need formula. Despite all these dips in all these vitamins in our breastmilk, our babies/new generations are still going strong, thanks to evolution, and survival of the fittest lol. Anyway, like I said before, do half half if that’s what you like, but don’t think it’s the best, and such “best” kind of perspective just give other mom more worries and unnecessary stress, when atm, it’s pretty inconclusive.
@littlefish Considering you skipped over the other two studies to specifically mention the one that’s related to a 3rd world country, it’s nitpicking. Or cherry-picking. What have you.
People didn’t need to rely on folic acid either 200 years ago and now every mother is advised to take them. Fact of the matter is, most of us don’t eat well enough to produce the best health for babies. (Not to mention, with increasing reliance on GMO produce, useful nutrients we’re actually deriving from food is dramatically declining. Meaning we actually need to eat more in order to gain even a degree of the benefits we used to eat in non-GMO food.)
And this is where supplementation comes along to assist.
If survival of the fittest is what we aim for, then a lot of kids will not be born today lol. We’re trying to nurture and raise them to be a fit survivor, not leave them to their own devices.
I know mothers have a lot on their plate already to worry about. Formula isn’t necessary, but it’s disingenuous to say that solely breastfeeding is best, especially when the mother doesn’t have the greatest diet.
@coralie Im inclined to say I agree that a bit of both doesnt hurt. Over the decade or so the “breast is best” message has been reinforced with good intentions but the stigma not not choosing to or not being able to has been quite stressful for mothers.
I think as long as the mother has attempted the initial more important stages of it, transitioning to bottle be it for health or even convenience shouldn’t be frowned on.
Has there even been any research on comparisons of health of adults who were breast fed vs bottle fed to offer this advice?
@megamiaow yeah i think it covers everyone’s bases when kids are fed both – mother’s milk for antibodies and formula for deficient nutrients. and you bring up an incredibly important point, too. a lot of women feel guilty for not breastfeeding their babies for longer or for not being able to breastfeed at all, while dismissing supplementation as a good source of food because of the “breast is best” dogma. there is a lot of ongoing research related to whether it’s true that breast milk is enough for infants considering that milk’s composition is not fixed. it’s largely dependent on the mother’s nutrition as well.
a lot of research has been unearthed on the topic of whether there’s any difference between BF & formula-fed people and the general conclusion is that even if there is any, it’s negligible. however, i don’t take that as gospel, because there definitely can be antibodies that mothers have that we have trouble manufacturing. but as long as the babies are fed both, i don’t think there should be any discrepancy in health.
@m0m0
I thought natural birth would be better? What are some of the things that do not go away? I should have asked my former friends who had kids but too late now.
@hetieshou Having alot of kids *can*(Im not saying absolutely will) permanently widen the canal. Its the main reason for women getting designer v****nas under cosmetic surgery.
@megamiaow V reconstruction is ridiculous. I would ask any man who wants his wife to go through surgery for that, “How small do you need it?”
@potatochip Most women who undergo it are probably doing it for themselves, and to regain their own confidence in the bodies, not as a direct result of pleasing their partners. Same idea as dressing up to go out, we dont always do it simply for the benefit of attracting men. We do it to feel good and confident about ourselves.
@megamiaow Dressing up is a lot different than undergoing surgery. I suspect it is men who put pressure on women to be a certain way. Pretty like all things in life. I have had 4 kids born naturally. My last one was large for gestational age at 8.5 lbs. I have never thought that my v needs to be more narrow. With all the stuff that mothers must take care of, I can’t imagine many women worry about their V without some man commenting on it.
@potatochip Its not that different. Women put a lot of pressure on themselves and the misconception is men prefer it like that. Im applying it beyond surgery. To going out looking nice, to constantly wanting to look slim. Most the time men dont necessary prefer stick thin women, yet thats what women will strive for anyway, because they are not thinking just what men would want. Its what they want themselves, and what society in general think is ideal. I just dont think its fair to always say its what the men demands because thats not always true.
Im going bit off topic now. My point anyway, is that women want different things for their body, and thats ok, but its not always entirely about pleasing a man.
@megamiaow Here is a thought. Lesbian woman also have babies. Do you think Lesbian mothers have the same rate of V reconstruction as heterosexual mothers?
Probably not. Because Lesbian mothers don’t feel pressure to please a man. This procedure is not about the woman.
V reconstruction is totally different than mommy makeovers (tummy tucks and breast lifts). That, I agree, is for a woman’s self confidence.
@potatochip That would also be a total guess. We cant say for sure that lesbians do it any less due to different sexual orientations. That would be a sweeping presumption Im not willing to make.
V area also still part of a womans body, and can boost confidence as much as a tummy tuck and breast lift. I dont see it any different. Going to have to agree to disagree with you here.
@megamiaow are we talking about bladder control? Because I’m not sure I ever heard anything like this before, but then my friends only have max 3 children lol
@megamiaow
Where did you hear that from? My mom had many kids but not sure if it widened her canal.
@hetieshou From an Ex, and then Mr Google for the rest. God forbid if I ask my mum if its affected her sex life lol. My mum has had a lot of kids too.
Is Pheobe’s younger sister still at school? Would she be studying the ‘Ancient Romans’ in history, by any chance?
@jimmyszeto hahaha you made my day
Shesh, you guys are harsh. It’s funny though lol. What’s more funny is if I’m a conspiracy theorist I would say this couple tries rly hard to follow Grace and Kevin. It’s like they’re their shadows lol.
Back on subject, cute baby. Everyone is happy and healthy. That’s all that matter.
Curious though, is Quintas her real name, ie on her birth certificate, or a stage/nickname?
Since they’re so obsessed with the idea of Q coming between their P and R, when they have another child, they can call him/her Quarter (cos one fourth of family) and if they have a third child, he/she can be called Quintet (cos now 5 in family). Quinta is such a pretentious name (sounds like “quitter” btw lol) but thankfully they didn’t call her Qantas or something worse, seeing how Hongkongers seem to love outlandish/pretentious names for the sake of standing out from the crowd.
@passingby2 qantas xD lol…. Australian airline will have a proud day if a baby is named after them
Isn’t there a hotel named Laquita? It sounded more like French? Anyway congratulations I think it’s okay with a unusual name for a girl.
@cutie777
I agree and I guess they just wanted to unique name for their daughter.
I was curious what other girl names start with Q besides Queenie. So, I did a google search and found this list.
https://www.babble.com/baby-names/girl-names-that-start-with-q/
Turns out Quinta is a legit name. 🙂
Actually, Quinta really doesn’t sound that bad.
@kidd
It’s not quitter. It’s quinta. And it’s a horrible name for a chinese…
@jimmyszeto
Sorry, my bad. Misspelt the name. I’ve corrected my post.
@kidd Quinta is not as bad as Queenie or Quintus. I would have liked Quinlan from that list. Quinn also is nice, but it is better to have 2 syllables for flow. I think Quincy, even though traditionally a male name, would have been cute for a girl.
Eh, but I guess I can’t trust my preferences. My mom came up with the names for all our kids. Lol.
@potatochip lol, Quincy is a famous name for Manga fans, better not go there xD In Bleach, Quincy is like a group of priest archer that exorcise ghost/spirit :p
@littlefish
‘Quest’ has a good meaning. Somebody who is in for a exciting journey/search.Can be interpreted as a life journey. Too bad the surname is Chan. I’ve used this joke already. I know….
@littlefish I am so not current with hip culture. (Embarrassingly asking) What is Manga? Quincy is such an old name and seem so non-threatening that I didn’t know about the priest archer exorcists.
BTW, I loved what you said above about natural delivery vs C-section. There are so many facets.
@potatochip lol think Japanese comic book 🙂 it might be an old name, but to my generation, it’s a priest archer exorcist group lol! Manhua is the chinese comic book, and manga is the Japanese one, there might be something else to the name, but that’s basically the gist of it
@kidd ikr i could only think of Queenie when they said their baby’s name was going to start with Q. when i first heard they named her quinta i was kinda disliking the name, but now i kinda like it.
@emiliachan
Yeah, the name Quinta kinda grows on me too. 🙂
Quinta isn’t a horrible name but I think Quinn would have been fine. Agree with @potatochip that Quincy would have been a cute name regardless of gender!
Disappointed that people are putting in their 2 cents about natural birth vs c-section. I get that c-sections are common with celebs but you can’t generalize them all as women who are “afraid of natural birth” and what it does to their bodies. Also, if you’re a man, SIT DOWN and don’t comment. You aren’t the ones carrying a BABY inside of you for months and going through all the struggles of child birth. Also, you don’t know if the mother has any medical conditions that might make giving birth more dangerous or difficult so it’s not in your place to comment about that. And even if they were scared, that’s completely normal. Having a baby and giving birth to a baby are both very scary things.
@scarlett013
Did you become suspicious when 99% of celebrities have a condition where they can’t have natural birth. I wasn’t going to comment but then someone with understanding of c section said that when the baby comes out from c-section, it is silent for a while. That basically means the baby isn’t quite ready to come out. Of course I understand c section is needed if the body isn’t suitable for natural birth. I don’t respect the ones who just decide to pick a date to suit themselves for their own convenience. Giving birth is not booking a hotel room…
@scarlett013 Uhm I was the one that raised the question, and I’m a mother. And I only raise it because so far, 2 births from HK currently is c-section and they are quite young. My sister in law had to have c-section because her pelvic is too small, delivering naturally will damage the baby’s head, if not, fatal. Whereas Grace and Phoebe are both quite young, so I’m a bit surprised with the C-section and wonder if it’s the norm in HK.
Idk about ZLY, but it seems she has a natural birth.
Also raising the question isn’t about to shame them, rather understanding the current thought the Asian society has in regarding to c-section and natural birth. Just like how even until now, asian thinks formula is better for baby! My father is working in public health, and he is now going around trying to re-educating people to breastfeeding than giving babies formula!
I’m sorry if raising such questions make people feel edgy, but my intention was to understand why. Because currently, research indicates that natural birth is much better for the baby. Australian hospital is pushing for natural birth, and breastfeeding, they know it’s a hard process, so they have a lot of supports so mothers don’t feel abandoned and alone.
@littlefish
I’m guessing just from witnessing my wife giving birth twice that it can take a lot out of the women physically of it is a difficult childbirth. You can see from a mother with a c section that they look like they hadn’t even given birth while someone who has given natural birth could be physically shattered to the extent that it could take months just to recover and regain her beauty. No evidence of this but I feel it could be so celebrities do not want to have their appearance affected. Even a non celebrity like Pheobe because she wants to use the relationship to make her a celebrity…
@jimmyszeto You see those women who had C-sections when they are ready to present themselves to you. Likely many days after the baby is born. And only for a couple of hours. They aren’t going to show you when they are at their most vulnerable. You aren’t their husband. They might not even show their suffering to their own brothers or fathers. That’s why you have a limited selective view. (which I am not saying is your fault, just a reasoning for your perspective)
@potatochip it’s not even just Jimmy or any men really, even I, who has many friends who have natural births, none of them have c-section, apart from two who I’m not very close, but 1 c-section was emergency one, and the other because it was twins, so my view will be limited. I’m not judging people who chose c-section, but I do frown on them if they do it because of the auspicious day and time. Which is the main gist of this conversation? I don’t think c-section mothers can bounce back as fast as natural birth mothers
@littlefish
I think we need to compare photos of women before and after giving birth using natural and ones using c section. The big push with natural method which can go on for hours should be visible in the appearance after giving birth
@jimmyszeto Why do you feel a need to compare?
While I do agree that picking specific “auspicious” days to give birth via c-section isn’t the best thing to do, it’s not in our place to pass judgment on people that feel the need to do so.
As someone else mentioned, sometimes c-sections do need to be scheduled in order for the baby’s father to be able to attend or to be part of this experience. It’s unfair for any parent to miss the birth of their child just because of the difficulty to take time off due to their line of work. I’m sure most pregnant women also prefer that their partner is there with them as moral support as well.
You were lucky to be able to be with your wife while she went through labor but some people aren’t so lucky.
Also, why are we even talking about how a woman looks after giving birth? Giving birth is a beautiful thing and it’s super messed up that people uglify it by body shaming.
@littlefish Grace is tiny so a small pelvis is totally possible. Thank you for clarifying that you’re not shaming them.
@scarlett013
i’m comparing it because I think that’s why the percentage is so high on c-section for celebrities. I also feel having a c-section so that the father can attend on the date is the same as choosing the date and time to suit yourself. When the baby is ready to come out then it’s ready…
@jimmyszeto Hmm natural birth is generally considered best practice for any baby, but tbh, if I was a delivering mother, I would want my husband to be there. And if that means scheduling a C-section to make that option viable, then so be it. I don’t want him to miss that important momentous occasion of seeing our child’s birth. Besides which, I want him to be there to comfort me (and let me yell at him while I’m at it.)
@coralie
well, just like the general public, they should make time nearer the due date of the baby then.
@jimmyszeto it’s not that easy when they’re celebrities and their schedules are crammed to the max with work or functions. their work involves a lot of coordinating & planning with different companies, workers, artists, teams, etc and is done months in advance. if he just takes off, that will severely impact the progress of the work that’s being done, not to mention money lost.
and kids aren’t born on schedule. some kids can be born 2 weeks late, some 1 week early, some 1 week late, etc. he can’t be on hold pending the delivery of his kid, because that’s money-making opportunity he’s losing (and as the only earner, that’s important.) that’s true for the general public too. but the difference is that the general public can be excused from work immediately, while he can’t.
@coralie
There are many professions that aren’t very convenient to take off too but people still arrange it. There are months to arrange for a time off..
@jimmyszeto Actually some doctors end up missing their own kids’ birth as a result of their schedules. It’s not like they can tell their babies to stay on hold while they’re operating on someone else. In the U.S., C-sections are not optional and are only used during extenuating circumstances. So these doctors probably have no choice but to work until delivery. And they have no backups either, because hospitals are short-staffed as it is. Some places also don’t offer paternity leave, so how are they going to plan around that, especially if the baby’s going to be 1-2 weeks late.
So, I don’t begrudge them for taking the convenient way out. It’s not as healthy, but it’s hardly that bad.
@littlefish
Aimee is the only one I’ve seen of the celebs that took a long time to recover her appearance. Maybe she used natural method?
Lots of nicer sounds of Q female names actually….Qiana Quelina Quintessa Quisha? lol haha….Hey, they are the parents there must be something good they like with the name Quinta 🙂 I think it’s way better than parents naming their daughters RYAN and WYATT ? lol
@wm2017
Ruco and Pheobe will likely continue to tell us repeatedly for the next few decades.”’q’ is between the R and the P. Blah blah blah’.” (Thanks Ruco! We aren’t dumb.We know how the alphabet works’). The other reason was probably Pheobe’s Sister was studying Ancient History in class and stumbled across the name. One thing is for sure, the child when grown up will want people to call her by her chinese name. That’s assuming the chinese name isn’t as strange ofc
@jimmyszeto lol, with their reasoning I can come up with these:
Naming your child O, you will always be in front, with your parents always behind you and support everything you do!
Naming your child A, you are first priority in our lives and we will do everything in our power to love and protect you!
Lol! Wonder what happens if they have the next child, or the one after that ;D
Quisha sounds like squish, not a good name lol! Also all these Q name sounds so Spanish/Portuguese! Quinn is the nicest out of the bunch though, but too ordinary for the Chan I guess, because it’s a legit English name, Ruco can’t have that >_>
@littlefish
There are many reasons parents pick the names but I feel the one by Ruco and Pheobe is the most pretentious. Playing with letters has no meaning. Letters do not protect each other. You could say P and R traps the Q, or the they squash the Q. Where did they get the protect from and why do they feel they have to keep repeating their reason? The other common ways to create a name is for convenience of calling, good meaning in the name or named after someone famous(as long as it is not ridiculous).
@littlefish
Yeh I can be pretentious and a show off too. L is the first letter of ‘Love’. I love my child so I will start his name with a ‘L’. Can’t use J for my baby name because ‘J’ is the starting letter of ‘Jacqueline’. For people who don’t know English and have no understanding of phonics, I repeat that Jacqueline starts with a ‘J’. Sorry, I just had ‘Ruco syndrome’ for a moment then…….
@jimmyszeto lol “Ruco Syndrome” good one!!!!! Now …dont get me started..too late… what the heck is Ruco… .always meant to ask that! Its sooo made up!
@wm2017
That is so true. There are many perfectly good girl’s names out there, but, some parents choose to give their baby girl a boy’s name. Through out the ages, many originally boy’s name has been taken by girls, but, the trend never flowed the other way. Some people think this is because society favors male, so, parents gave their daughters boy’s names to give them a better future.
@jimmyszeto Lol. I think you’re being funny by saying 99%. Grace had a C-section, but I am not surprised if it is because she had a narrow pelvis because she was one of the skinniest pregnant woman ever. (But if I were less generous, she does place great value in her appearance).
Phoebe sounded like she had a rough pregnancy. Her face was a lot thinner than normal at the beginning and I would guess she had a lot of vomiting. 29 years old is kinda middle age for pregnant women.
I don’t follow celebrities close enough and I don’t have time to look it up, but did all these ladies have C-sections? Linda, Leanne, Myolie, Aimee, Sharon Chan, Yoyo Chen, Yang Mi… If so, it’s not just a problem with HK celebrities, but I have to question the medical profession to allow this.
Please be mindful of generalizations about C-sections being the easy way out or that the mother didn’t experience pain.
Same as the mother selfishly chose her beauty over the safety of her baby. Many regular, non-celebrities have to have them and may feel like you are disparaging them.
Before modern medicine, half of women died in childbirth. Natural is great, but C-sections save lives when needed.
@potatochip I think Aimee had natural birth for all her kids, not sure of the others…
@potatochip
Myolie has natural birth. Some reports said that she even forgo epidural during the birthing because she wanted to experience the full birthing process.
@potatochip
I agree that some have the wrong impression about C sections. One of my cousins had it at 21 when she had her first daughter and it was not by choice. The doctors said her pelvis was too narrow so she had to have one. 21 is very young too so it was definitely not the age issue. My cousin said she did not feel the labor pain but the pain from the surgery was very painful too. People that have not been through it or know people who have will not understand.
@potatochip perhaps a way to not be disparaging is to say why they need a c-section? I know it’s a private issue in a sense, but knowing it’s for medical reason will help the general public to not have a misperception about why asians choose c-section, again, need a more open communication. Also help other feels like asian aren’t choosing c-section for the auspicious time
@littlefish It is a private medical issue and no one’s business for why a C-section is done. A mother shouldn’t feel the need to explain herself. Ideally, instead of assuming a mother had a C-section for selfish reasons (lucky birthdate, fear of pain or damage to the body), they should think of it as a necessary intervention to save mom’s and baby’s lives. People are being too judgmental and to change that starts at the individual level. Conversations like these where we share another perspective may help them open their minds.
Congratulations! Why the heck is there all this negativity and criticism over a baby’s name under news about a new life???
It’s disappointing and exasperating that the negativity and judgment aren’t being directed towards the individuals who are actually perpetuating immoral and unprincipled values by their life choices. Quinta is a unique and wonderful name imo; it’s easy to pronounce and also not too popular. My opinion with baby names is that find one that’s not too common, but nonetheless not too weird or with crazy spelling or difficult pronunciation. It’s all about balance. You want your child not to experience bullying or discrimination due to a strange name that’s hard to say or spell and you don’t want them running out of time on tests or exams because you gotta fill out all the bubbles for each letter of the name on multiple choices tests ( in North America at least). However, you also don’t want them finding out that there’s three other people with the same name in their class or at the office because it becomes an issue when you don’t know who someone is talking to when they only say the first name. There’s also this feeling of constant comparison and it’s not healthy for those who are not confident or averse to competition. I speak from experience because I have a biblical name that’s not too common and there are days when I get tired of spelling it out or hear strangers mispronounce it half the time (i gave up a long time ago correcting others). Yet when I found out there was another high school classmate with the same name, it was rather annoying at first because there’s obviously gonna be confusion when we’re both in the same class.
As for Rafael and other names that are bestowed due to a role model or celebrity or personal hero, I think it’s rather unfair to force your child to grow up and live under somebody else’s shadow and name for the rest of their lives. It may be your idol or hero, but not necessarily theirs and they got every right to have a life that’s all their own and not have to adhere to the values and ideals of another person. If you like that person so much, name your pet after them, but not another human being. At least their child can always choose to change names after a certain age, so it’s not irrevocable.
@rila Uhm, many names are basically famous name, or shall I say many common names are once upon a time belong to a famous person, or a convicted criminal! Just because the inspiration might be from a sport legend or a war hero, doesn’t mean the parents expect or force their child to go their idol’s route of life, that’s presumption at best. But let’s me guess you are ruco’s fan, and so he gets a free pass, but Kevin and grace aren’t!
Also news flash, all parents have some sort of expectations on their kids, no parents has zero!
@littlefish
I know that all names originate from at least one person (unless you invent new ones and i do know a family who did) but it’s a different story when you are named after a SPECIFIC contemporary person who is still alive or was alive in this century. For example, my name is biblical but because that part of history was ages ago and way before my lifetime I don’t feel any connection whatsoever besides the general idea that my name has a religious meaning and the hope that I live a virtuous and ethical life. However, I do think it has some impact on the child when it’s for instance, naming them after Celine Dion or Albert Einstein or Wayne Gretzky. Emotionally vulnerable kids would feel some pressure to live up to the name or assume that their parents only want them to pursue a certain career. It enforces this mentality that parents will only love and support them if they follow their parents’ wishes and anything else would disappoint them and jeopardize their relationship. Obviously this scenario doesn’t apply to all kids, but it’s better to err on the side of caution when it comes to your children. Parents will evidently and naturally have expectations, but I refuse to believe that these should contribute to any mental health issue or deny kids the freedom to forge their own paths. That’s my take. As for being Ruco’s fan, I admit several years ago I admired his acting, but I already ceased to like him for several reasons. I actually liked Grace alot more but also stopped after she started dating Kevin.
@rila it all depend on the parents, that’s why I said it’s presumptuous to think the kids will have pressure. If the parents keep going on about how the kid’s name is after a famous person, want the kid to pursue the career, pressuring the kids to do everything in order to achieve it, and forgo the kid interest, it is very bad, but it says more about the parents than the name. If a parent picks the name because it’s from one of their idols, have a nice sound to it, while let the kids do whatever, reassuring the kids they can do whatever, then naming kids after a famous person isn’t bad. It’s all about the parents, not the kid.
One of your examples, Albert Einstein, unless the kid is name Albert Einstein, naming him Albert isn’t bad because Albert is an old English name (also a royal one at that). I think your caution to naming a kid so and so is way too cautious, and looking at the surface rather than the root. I know some kids are born mentally vulnerable, but that means even the slightest thing would trigger them off, while nothing the parents do can help them. I believe in nurture rather than silly thing like how you should name your child.
@littlefish
Some kids develop at their own pace and some are slower than others however much resources are put into them. It’s better to let them develop naturally and let them find their interests but direct them if necessary. There’s no need to keep Spanish Rafael name and all the mentions of wanting the child to be like his idol. Even the people on here are starting to call him Rafa so you can imagine the pressure the kid may have if people around him start linking him to the tennis player as he grows up. Not every can be the best. Very few make it. The quickest ‘learn to walk’ baby might come from the typical average baby from the village. There’s no need for celebrities to race to announce that their babies are first to do this and that..
@jimmyszeto Rafa is a cute nickname, and trust me, Rafa is much better than other impose a nickname on the child 🙂 I don’t think there is a pressures when calling a child Rafa, I felt when other imposed a wrong nickname on my child that is more annoying lol. I called my child X, I know you want to be friendly but you call him the wrong name lol!
@littlefish
To you Rafa might be just a cute nickname. Rafa to me and everyone in the world who knows a bit of sport just means Nadal. If that is not pressure on the kid then I don’t know what is.
Quinta is an odd name, but hey, not my kid lol.
Congrats to Ruco & Phoebe for a safe delivery. I hope Phoebe used C-section because it’s warranted and not because it’s more convenient (though the convenience part I can understand since it’s not like Ruco can suddenly just take off from work just ’cause his wife is in labor. Lots of celebrities choose to do C-sections for this reason; it’s easier to schedule & attend.)
@coralie while I understand the commitment issue, I find it’s rather sad that they can’t clear their schedule for 1 month. Pregnancy takes 9 months, plenty of time to withdraw, or stop working or work out a different schedule to free 1 month for delivery of a child. Instead of opting for an easy way out (figure of speech, not because it’s easy physically or mentally just to be clear), because like I said natural birth is better for baby if no medical issue involves.
Also these celebrities are so rich, not working for a bit doesn’t hurt them -.-???
@littlefish But you forget they work for TVB…who’s known for being stingy with salary and the only way for him to make money is to do endorsements and keep up his value. He only got popular recently and everything in Asia is money. Even doctors are making bank, but you don’t see them taking a break for the birth of their babies, because sometimes they really just can’t. More out of job obligation than financial aspect. I’m not sure which side of the coin Ruco’s on, but it’s a possibility. I’m not them, but almost all celebrities and artist in recent years have done the same thing. There has to be a reason other than monetary gain (though you do often hear, they need to earn more milk money.) Formula is expensive, I guess. And Phoebe isn’t exactly a high earner.
@coralie
Stingy salary is not an excuse. A lead actor/actress at TVB will earn millions of pounds or dollars a year and TVB knows it. That’s why artistes fight to become a lead actor. Ruco is a multimillionaire and a lot of how he earns money is literally attending a event of a brand and sighing his name and taking a few photos then pick up a fat check. Ruco will not love his millionaire status and his properties by taking a few weeks off. It was said that Wayne Lai and his manager wife always picked up the check on the day of the event before they left. Not exactly tough work. Multimillionaires that do not have own businesses to look after cannot plan to take some time off for the birth of a child? We normal citizens are the ones who can’t afford to take time off for the birth of our children but we still do.
@jimmyszeto Less income doesnt mean they get more freedom. On the contrary, they have a lot more responsibility and need to be available a lot more than the average worker.
Being in the entertainment industry also means that they have to fulfill certain contracts and do not have the power to take leave whenever they wish.
@megamiaow but that’s why I said they have literally 9mo to change the contract/get out or do it before the delivery time. It’s hard but achievable. FSF seems to be able to do it? Other celebrities managed it, Ruco should be able to do the same?
Doctors are very different, because when a patient need surgery, they can’t just go can you please wait. Also due to the lack of doctors/surgeons, the wait list are very long, and they are all ticking time bomb, not like a movie or a drama series, I’m sorry but there are many many stars that would happy to take your spot lol.
@littlefish uh, FSF and ZLY did c-section, too: http://www.bestchinanews.com/Entertainment/16795.html. https://www.jaynestars.com/news/zanilia-zhao-about-to-give-birth/. so no, they did not do things differently lol.
@littlefish Tvb usually tie people in for years. 9 months is prob still not enough time for Ruco.
I hope Ruco will stop this obsession of self proclaiming him and Phoebe as a celebrity couple. He is a actor, she is a housewife. That is it!
Ruco’s been asked by the HK media at this topic each time he appeared before Quinta’s birth. This is market value. It’s already couple of weeks after daughter’s birth before he announced to the public- the media and thousands of fans awaiting for the good news. TBB also need positive news to balance the negative one lately.
From a HK newspaper, I found Phoebe’s definition for Quinta-wealthy, successful, persistent-not verified though. Anyway, the couple decided not to put Quinta in official documents-bc,id. in case daughter dislikes it when grows up.
@66ksc so it’s actually not in document, so they can change it later they want to lol. That might also mean they are not 100% sold on the name? Lol