Ruco Chan and Phoebe Sin are Having a Baby Girl!
Ruco Chan (陳展鵬) and Phoebe Sin (單文柔) had their wedding in October 2018 and their baby is on the way. Recently, Phoebe had her baby shower and revealed the gender. Phoebe wore an elegant deep V dress that exposed her curves, while Ruco dressed in all black. The two are excited to welcome the arrival of their daughter.
Inviting her good friends Jacqueline Wong (黃心穎), Bowie Cheung (張寶兒), Tiffany Lau (劉穎鏇), and Vivi Lee (李美慧), Phoebe hosted a fantasy-like party filled with stars and balloons for her baby gender reveal. The couple has been giving their baby the nickname “Little Piggy”, which led her to have many piggy-themed elements at her party including matching cupcakes.
The name of their daughter is still a mystery, but the couple decided that the baby’s name will start with a Q because the letter is between P for Phoebe and R for Ruco.
With the baby’s arrival only a few weeks away, the couple has nearly completed preparations. Ruco said earlier, “We haven’t decided whether to deliver the baby naturally or get a Cesarean section yet. Even if we schedule a Cesarean section, [Phoebe] may still go into labor early.”
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This article is written by Hailey for JayneStars.com.
Quinny, Quincy, Queenie, Quinoa lol..and what does the caption “Luff you” mean?
@marquis LOL Quinoa. Luff you is phonetically love you.
@marquis
It’s going to be Quest Chan(Question)
@jimmyszeto hahahaha! Quest chan! Yes, miss? No… I meant any question??? X”D you are making me cry right now
@littlefish
It’s a shame Ruco’s surname is Chan. Quest is by far the most creative Q name for a girl…
I don’t know what a baby shower is and don’t believe in celebrations before giving birth….
@jimmyszeto the rich finding ways to spend money.
@jimmyszeto It’s a pretty standard Western tradition to have baby showers to celebrate a pregnancy. It is practical because the couple will receive much needed gifts to be ready for the baby. Once the baby comes, feeding, changing diapers, and sleep exhaustion makes it difficult to get organize or hang out with friends.
I don’t really know why Eastern cultures celebrate after giving birth, but I think it is because back in the old days, unfortunately, babies and mothers don’t always live. Luckily, with modern medicine, this is rare.
It seems that Ruco and Phoebe had a baby shower and a gender reveal party (a millennial thing nowadays) combined. They don’t really need the gifts, but it is just a way to share happiness.
@jimmyszeto baby shower is a western thing to shower the mom to be with gifts and blessing, where it’s just a gathering to have some silly pregnancy games xD these days, some don’t care about baby shower because of so much hand me down lol
@jimmyszeto i agree. it does seem like a ploy to get as much money out of your friends/family as possible before the baby’s arrival. or if they’re filthy rich, then it’s to show off.
well, i feel that way about weddings, too. i think it’s just a big pompous display of wealth and show for others.
@coralie
There’s no reason why we can’t receive gifts after the baby’s birth. I feel it it a prequisite for showing off and spoiling for the children with a baby shower even before they were born. I don’t like showing off the kids because no one likes to hear it tbh People other than family hate it when their own kids are doing worse or love to gloat back of their kids are doing better. It’s up to my children to prove themselves once they come out to the real world as an adult..
@jimmyszeto yeah if the gifts are given out of generosity and not due to obligation, that’s totally fine & appreciated. but to hold a party before the birth just to receive gifts sounds wrong to me.
@coralie
I don’t like it at all. Some want kids but cant have any yet or some are not married, some are still trying. I wouldn’t want to hold a party for a child who isn’t even born yet to show off and make people feel they have to attend and congratulate…
@jimmyszeto @coralie Have you had the chance to attend a baby shower, yet? In general, men are invited, but mostly the girlfriends of the mother-to-be attend. They are usually casual, intimate gatherings that really are meant to focus on the new mom and the joy of new life. It is family focus with silly games, simple food, and yummy sweets. The vibe is cheerful, creative, and fun.
I had surprise baby showers for 2 of my babies that were thrown by my friends. Usually these are hosted by friends. I have also attended several. I have never felt obligated to give a gift or felt that the mother-to-be was showing off. People are invited and they can always decline. But it is so much fun to pick out the perfect, cute item for a baby and give it to them.
It is hard to tell because I haven’t struggled with infertility, but if I were, I would not be self-centered and be able to celebrate the pregnancy of a close friend.
And if I were sensitive to another’s pregnancy, celebrating before or after the baby is born would really not make a difference in my mood.
I also value tradition. We had the 1 month celebrations for our babies but it was only for immediate family. Less than 10 people were present for a simple dinner.
I have also been to 1 month celebrations where 50-100 people were there for 8 course meals and lots of drinking. Those were big parties that would have been exhausting to me and the new baby. It seemed over-the-top, but hey, if that is how they want to celebrate, why should I be a party-pooper?
@potatochip spot on comment. In fact it’s usually the girlfriends of the expecting mom, that offer to throw the party and plan games similar to a bachelor or bachelorette party. In fact, sometimes it’s also more convenient since the guests can choose a more practical gift from the registry, and avoid buying duplicate gifts for the newborn. Most importantly, friends who have children can also share their child rearing experience with the mom or parents-to-be. Mind you, we never had a baby shower with the 2nd one because we recycled a lot from our first child.
@marquis you actually kinda proved my point. you didn’t hold a second bb shower because you could’ve used things from the first…so it’s less about celebrating your child and more for the gifts and useful practical baby items. not that there’s anything inherently wrong about that as it is tradition. I just don’t care for it; personal philosophy. I see weddings the same way, so there’s no bias.
@potatochip I’ve been to some & they were never surprises. After all, how would they know who to invite to the party if the mama-to-be wasn’t aware? Most of the time the mama had to approve it or give her own feedback to make the party feasible. If yours was truly a surprise, then that’s different. It’s when I know they were not (which is usually 90% of the time) that I think it’s tacky.
@coralie My surprise ones were thrown by my work friends. They told me our monthly lunch meeting was on a certain day. I come to the lunch room and it was decorated with cute baby stuff and we had a potluck and cake. I did not have a registry so anyone who wanted to, gave me cute baby clothes, blankets or diapers. I felt so blessed by the sentiment.
I have thrown a surprise one myself also. We did the same “a lunch meeting will be on this date” and had a secret GroupMe to communicate with each other. We invited the husband her her parents. She had tears of happiness when she saw everything.
With the non-surprises that I attended, the mothers-to-be were always glowing and thankful. They did not expect anything and tried to be gracious hosts, even though they technically did not host. Not every Western mom have showers but the ones I attend were always good friends. They ones you went to, were they close friends? Perhaps if they weren’t, that is why you felt it as an obligation rather than a celebration.
@potatochip See, your situation is totally different and it sounds much more casual & comfortable than most baby showers i’ve been to… the type where people actually rent out restaurants, send baby shower invites, etc. I don’t mind shindigs if people were just showing up to celebrate a baby’s birth; that’s genuine & the mamas-to-be don’t even know it.
The ones i’ve been to…let’s just say although i don’t consider myself a close friend, i’ve known them for a very long time. So it feels obligatory to attend. And I don’t know any of their close friends, family, etc., but I was still invited & it wasn’t because her close friends know me. Most of my friends’ baby showers…they all know about it beforehand. None of them were surprises.
@coralie Yeah, I can understand that feeling especially if you aren’t close and it’s like a mini wedding. I am pretty low maintenance myself so all that is overwhelming. But whatever floats one’s boat, I guess.
@potatochip
Which of the thin female celebrities will munch through those expensive fattening cupcakes?
@jimmyszeto Eh, huh? I am relatively skinny and I like my sweets. I work out so that I can enjoy my food. I would try one of every type. but I guess that’s me.
Some pictures look like some of the treats have already been eaten. It when I first saw them, I thought the party must have been small because that is not enough sweets.
@potatochip
Celebrities will certainly try and stay off the sugar. Can see if the excess dieting from female celebrities and the body building of males. I would have wolfed down the lot tbh. Can’t resist sweet desserts…
@coralie nowadays a lot of people have baby showers which is actually a Western thingy. I think traditional Chinese do not celebrate before a baby is born (superstitious perhaps). People who throw baby showers are mostly just aping this Western tradition cos it’s the “in” thing and they think it shows how fashionable/trendy/Westernised/well-to-do they are. It’s a case of keeping up with the Joneses. Those who do elaborate gender reveals at baby showers are most definitely thrown by the expectant parents themselves.
@passingby2
Chinese usually are so superstious and I don’t want to sound like pessimistic jinx but some still fail to give birth at the end of the pregnancy term. It is unusual to have a baby shower for a chinese unless they want to receive presents or show off or both. In Ruco’s case, he is wealthy and certainly isn’t holding this celebration for the gifts. He is doing this definitely for the publicity, the social media pictures and to show off. His recent actions have all been to generate news to stay relevant, put Pheobe on the map since she is a nobody in the entertainment circle and dismiss all negative issues regarding his actions. The guy may not be nasty but I don’t like that kind of character…
@jimmyszeto you’re right. Things can and do go wrong in the last days of pregnancy, sometimes even during birth or when the baby is new born. Which is why traditionally, Chinese will celebrate only after the baby is one month old or after 100 days of its birth. Of cos this practice was passed down from generations ago when maternal and infant mortality rates were higher than present day but still, it’s better not to count your chickens before they’re hatched. These celebs all trying to outdo each other with elaborate baby showers are merely aping a Western tradition cos they think it makes them look Westernized and trendy plus for the publicity it generates. If Kevin and Grace had a baby shower then of cos Ruco and Phoebe must follow suit, otherwise no face. And obviously it’s also a PR move for him and his wife to remain in the public eye.
@passingby2 woops missed this comment. yes, agreed. it’s a western tradition and trendy at the moment. it also serves a better purpose than a 100 day bash, because it’s a great cash-grab before a baby’s birth for whatever items haven’t been purchased by the parents. versus a 100 day bash, where the parents are already expected to have everything, then it’s to celebrate the mother and baby’s safe passage from delivery.
@coralie I think it’s depend on the people you hang out with. All of the baby showers I’ve been to have been like that of @potatochip, all pretty low key, easygoing vibe. There are gifts, but they don’t care, because they also get handmedown. They tend to only do the first one is mainly because by second, you just couldn’t be bothered do a second one, and don’t want a pile of more gifts that just a waste. So it’s not because of “needing or not needing gifts” but because they don’t want the hassles of organising a party, than dealing with all the gifts they don’t need (that’s like a bonus rather than a real reason). Think of it on par as why do people throw big 1st birthday for baby, when it’s just for the parents! Because it’s the same reasoning really, the kid doesn’t remember, nor care about the gift/toys! If anything, it’s stressful for the one year old to be out of their routine, put in a stress environment where there 20+ people wants to interact with her/him.
Baby shower is a traditional thing, that’s why most only feel needed to do it once, whereas for you guys, you guys will always do 100 days celebration for every child. Baby shower tend to be one time only, first time you pregnant, you want to do it right. First time you marry, you want your wedding to be the right way (unless you don’t care).
And the focus of a baby shower is to celebrate the mother, not the baby. It’s about showing how much she’s appreciated, and for everyone to join in in her happiness of being pregnant and about to enter a new chapter of her life.
I know being Asian, we always obligated to give gifts, and possibly why it feels pretentious. But after Being friend with the expectant mother, you know whether that babyshower is pretentious or not, you can always decline lol.
@littlefish i get the sentiments, but i don’t agree with the 1st birthday bash analogy. i think it’s for the babies as well, because someday when the pictures from their birthday is seen, they can look back on the memories of their parents celebrating their birth. versus a baby shower…it’s not really for the baby at all. it’s for the mother. which again, is fine, no big deal. but people set up things like registry with expensive items, to make the most of the expenses associated with baby showering.
maybe it’s just american way vs other countries…or my friends lol. i’m not always fond of the pretentious friends i have
@coralie my point is the big first birthday. If you have a low key first birthday, the kid gets the same memory, via picture, all he would see is his family gathering around him and his birthday cake. My point was to compare a low key 1st birthday to a low key baby shower, and the big 1st birthday to a big baby shower. So it’s the same analogy. Just like you need a first birthday for the kid, the mother needs her first baby shower, because tradition said so. It’s only when they get greedy and over the top that it’s a practice to be frown upon. Also you don’t think we should celebrate the mother and her hard work at carrying a child? Or that we shouldn’t share and celebrate her joyful moment? Think of it as a day all the women in the house come together and gives you blessing. Because that’s the spirit of baby shower
But yea, I think it’s the people you hang out with lol. Even my friends’s Wedding, only 1 of them has a gift registry, and her marriage didn’t last long (!_!) all the other friends, did everything, wedding, 1 did engagement party (we went to a pub, where they hire a room and paid for the tap and snack until certain hour, and we paid for our meals, no gift required), babyshower, but super low key, and they are all over 15yrs together with 2kids +
@littlefish there’s always the baby’s 100th day celebration as well, to celebrate both the mother and child’s safe passage to delivery. so no, i don’t think a baby shower is necessary, but that’s my opinion. and a lot of people nowadays make a big deal out of baby showers, like megan markle (although she is a public figure) and lots of americans. it has become way too commercialized. i’m not a very public celebratory kind of person, so that’s just my preference. to give you an idea, i didn’t even hold a wedding nor an engagement party because to me, those are private affairs and i don’t need the public or those close to me to be witness to something so personal. i think the two people involved should be the only ones that matter. we celebrate with each other. likewise, i think baby showers (if done improperly) can be a cash-grab and very tacky. the low-key ones are fine, but even then, i don’t know what’s the difference between calling it a party versus a baby shower. usually showers are to “shower” the mother with gifts. the blessings mothers will get anyway when the baby’s born. but different people have a different way of handling their affairs. and some people can make it a heartfelt warm event without going over the top. it depends on how it’s done and what’s the intention behind the bash. (most of the ones i’ve seen…the intention is for the gifts.)
@coralie
I feel the only times we need to celebrate that there is a baby on its way is when 1.the doctor confirms(the usual fist pump and private excitement between the couple) 2. The birth of the child (1 month party/banquet or 100 days so mother can recover). My opinion is that there is no need for a celebration in between when the work is only half done. We always celebrate after a success of an event and not prior to an event. It’s becoming too extravagant and it is getting in a habit of potentially spoiling the child…..
@jimmyszeto yeah it does feel like it’s counting your eggs too soon. I don’t agree with baby showers for a lot of reasons, but doesn’t stop people from doing them. but I choose how I want to do things and that’s good enough for me
@coralie uh, 100 days celebration is a Chinese thing only! First bit, 100 days to celebrate mother and child, but as matter of fact, it’s main for the child. Second sentence, you listed Megan markle, who is a westerner???? Do you feel it’s a bit conflict there? She doesn’t do 100 days celebration!!!
@littlefish I listed her as an example. If you want to pick an Asian woman, there’s also Phoebe sin for you.
@coralie everything can be cash grab and tacky! I don’t do either wedding or babyshower either. You disrespecting baby shower when it’s a western tradition, when ok with 100 days because it’s a Chinese tradition?However, you still missing the point of a baby shower.
Let me break it down for you:
Baby shower’s focus: the mother
100 days focus: the baby (you think it’s for the mother And Baby, but that’s like saying you and your popular brother has the same birthday party together, one will be of a lesser focus). And let me put a western’s perspective and an Asian perspective into this. Westerners attend your 100 days will ask how you and the baby going. Most Asian will ask solely how the baby going, they don’t care about the mother! (I’ve been there and all they gush about is the baby! Human nature, we more attuned to focus on baby than the adult, the mother or the father). And we all know how fake Asian can be.
Baby shower: happens before the baby is born, so the expectant mother can be much more relaxing
100 days: happens 3 mo after baby was born, and it can be very stressful. My friend just recently did 100 days for her 3mo, and it literally just her parents, her sister and her family (husband and a 4yo), and she told me it was stressful for just a dinner, her son was unsettle because it was out of his routine, and she couldn’t even do the red egg!
Baby shower: gift for the mother and/or baby or whatever she might need to take care of her baby
100 days: gift for baby
And I don’t know how much I have to emphasise this, you don’t need to give gifts! Being Asian, we think giving a gift list mean we must choose from a gift list. Nope! Gift registry is to give you an idea, and also help the receiver not getting say 100 toasters! You look down on baby shower when it’s a western tradition, yet you are ok with people throwing crazy 100 days party???? Westerners don’t do 100 days, they do baby shower. You can look down on Asian that try to follow the westerners’s tradition and have no idea, and make it tacky. But you can’t really enforce that point of view on a westerners that just happen to be rich, because if likes so, then look down on those who do over the top tacky 100 days?!
If the westerners don’t do baby shower, and since they don’t do 100 days, what do they have??? Let be fair now??? And again, you guys use an Asian perspective on a western tradition that got used for marketing ploy and used by the rich Asian, to look down on something as simple as an occasion to share the expectant mother her happiness, share the experience you, your family and friends have on child bearing to the mother, and celebrate the next step of her life without the stress of that new life added in.
Because trust me, when you have a 3mo, the last thing you want to do is throwing a party!
@littlefish do you think a lot of question marks make your point heard better? Lol
and I’m not even saying a 100 day bash is necessary. I’m just saying in comparison, I would prefer a 100 day bash rather than a baby shower because it makes more sense (for reasons, see previous conversations above.) And not just myself as an Asian American who feel that way. Even non-Asians think it’s not worthwhile. when megan markle held her bash, do you know how much criticism she received? and considering how many of us are opposed to the idea, we have our own rationale for it. your love for baby showers does not reflect all of us and likewise I stated I don’t have control over how people handle their affairs and that it’s tradition which makes it acceptable. but given my own reasons for not liking it, I think you should respect that and not push your agenda on me. just like I don’t push it on people who follow traditions (that i don’t look highly on.)
@coralie I don’t push my agenda on people, I’m trying to get you to see the spirit of a baby shower. But you keep having this negative view point on western tradition. Just because a celebrity is doing overboard with it, doesn’t mean such tradition is bad. But again, you don’t seem to see it, never mind!
I don’t love or hate baby shower, nor do I love or hate 100 days celebration. But I don’t put an Asian view point on a westerner and then judge such westerner. You can hate baby shower if say Asian is doing it, and if said Asian demanded lavish gifts along with the 100 days celebration, but you should not just blindly hate on baby shower when it’s just the western traditions of how to celebrate the mother.
You keep bring Megan Markle into this discussion, she’s westerner, she’s rich, she’s marrying a prince, she has nothing to do with this conversation at all, because she doesn’t do 100 days celebration! Like I said judging her using the Asian stigma of able to do 100 days celebration is just wrong.
@littlefish
The problem is that there isn’t much spirit in the baby shower. Female westerners enjoy gathering with friends and they use this as an excuse to hold big parties on baby showers and baby christenings etr. There isn’t as much respect in baby showers even in the West as you insist. Plenty are confused about it and some who know about it feel not necessary to celebrate the baby 2 or 3 times. If you look at the reasons for holding a party, it does not make much sense because a parent should be saving money when a baby is due to arrive so why pay for a party and indirectly forcing friends to pay for extra gifts. I know westerners enjoy going for girly meet-ups for drinks and this is mainly the reason they are doing it and the baby is just an excuse. Like Christmas where the Chinese do not understand our culture at all of family open presents/Christmas tree/Christmas roast etr, thinking it’s fkr couples…. some Chinese such as Pheobe even if she has lived in Canada before think that she’s trendy when holding such a party but I doubt she and he friends know that it isn’t such a significant event in the Western Culture.
@littlefish you’re the one who brought up identity as an Asian and indicated that Asians are the ones who have 100 days bash, while non-Asians don’t have that option. but even without the 100 days bash, and just a baby shower, even non-Asians don’t agree with it. and that’s why i brought up megan markle as an example. so the spirit of a baby shower doesn’t mean jack to a bunch of asians and non-asians alike.
a baby shower/100 day bash is not necessary at all. why even put the baby and mother through such protocol to celebrate both parties? if there’s no material gifts needed, i bet you 70-80% of women won’t even hold the party. why go through the fuss of all that? that’s exactly why i don’t like weddings either. it’s because traditional values & family pressure pushes society to hold these celebratory events which is why people keep getting forced to do these things. do you know how many women i know regret holding a wedding in general? when they could use that money towards things like real estate? some smarter couples will just elope, as an example. some traditions, imo, are not worth the fuss they cause.
anyways i can see you don’t share my point of view on this. i already told you i understand why baby showers are acceptable due to tradition, but personally i don’t find them worthwhile for reasons i’ve already listed many times. just because you can’t see the rationale behind it, doesn’t mean others can’t. and that’s all i have to say.
@coralie
If I was stood in front of goal in a soccer match, I would celebrate ‘after’ I put the ball in the net rather before and I wouldn’t showboat either in case of a miskick so close to the goalmouth. I wouldn’t show off too much either because there are millions all over the world who score goals everyday. Nothing special and not a rare achievement. If you get my analogy…….
@jimmyszeto I get it. Yours is just one reason out of many why baby showers aren’t favored. I don’t have issues with that at all.
@coralie Lol, those women that regret/feel pressured to hold a wedding, let me guess: Asian? Or have Asian blood in them? Because not many westerners care about wedding nowadays unless their head in the clouds, and have ideas and expectations what “normal” life would be. The average joe I know don’t put much emphasis on wedding unless their partner wanted to, because their family wanted to.
ATM, you guys are bashing on baby shower, which is a western tradition that is basically equivalent to 100 days celebration (more or less, in face value, as you guys put it, to get gifts, you can argue it’s risky or whatever, but that’s one of the pro/con of baby shower vs 100 days). My point was you guys don’t go bash 100 days celebration because some Asian did an elaborate 100 days, yet here you all are bashing baby shower because an Asian is holding one. If you go ahead and bash phoebe for being greedy because she holds both baby shower AND 100 days, AND asked for presents for both, then fair enough. But nope, you bash on baby shower.
I know you don’t believe in traditions, however, you exceptionally harsh on western traditions, you think baby shower is cash grab, I will give you that if you also say 100 days is just as cash grab.
In your argument, non Asian don’t believe in baby shower, therefore baby shower is down right bad and terrible and just cash grab. So since you don’t believe in 100 days celebration either, that mean 100 days celebration also down right terrible and is a cash grab?
And @Jimmyszero, At the beginning, wedding is a sacred ceremony reunion between 2 people, however, as our society grows, rich people got air head, and all these must keep face, showing off, and everything just balloon out. Nothing held the value/spirit it used to be. The spirit of a baby shower used to be just a blessing to the mother, just like the spirit of 100 days used to be just a blessing to the child. If we can honour or at least know that was the spirit, then we can continue keep that tradition, however, if you think it’s just cash grab, then I’m sorry but that applied to literally every celebration: Chinese New Years (let outdo those red pocket money, hey), birthday, valentine, etc. all the baby shower I went to, none felt like a cash grab (apart from one, but she was the only one whose wedding has a gift registry, and again, she was the only one who’s divorced so far, so that say something about her, rather than the tradition, wedding, baby shower, all that Jazz).
Again I have no problem if you bash Asian for doing both, and wanted presents on both events, that is indeed cash grab and tacky. But the tradition itself isn’t, can’t help if there are people use it to get free gifts, but at the beginning that was what it meant for.
@littlefish
I don’t feel ‘the Baby Shower’ is a cash grab event at all. I think people invited who aren’t so close to the mother might feel confused but the intention of the event is more of a casual excuse for a gathering and sometimes to show off. I have seen girls posting weekly updates on social media who have wedding or birth of child, 9 months-1 year away. I think the Asians have misinterpreted the event though and think it’s a very cool, trendy bash when it’s not as popular or well received as they believe…
@littlefish Nope, some Asians, some non-Asians who regret holding a wedding. I don’t know where you see the “average joe” not caring about weddings. More often than not, they do care.
And like i said before, baby bashes are not necessary. They are a cash grab, one way or another (for most people anyways.) Same for CNY. I don’t contest that. But if they want to hold a celebration, then hold one after the baby’s born, which, like @jimmyszeto stated, is more appropriate because the baby’s born already. It’s not just a job half-done. Phoebe is Asian through & through. Just because she’s had 4 years of western education does not mean she’s Westernized. Whether it’s Western or Eastern tradition, to me, they’re all the same. I will hold none of those.
@coralie hmmm yes, a few years of overseas education does not make a person westernized. I’ve come across people who spend a few months in UK or USA and come back sporting a weird British or American accent, haha, so phoney.
@passingby2 @coralie
To learn what a ‘baby shower’ is from a few years studying in a western country would be a huge achievement. It would involve really hands on socialising and adapting to Western culture. From what I’ve witnessed, the majority of Chinese/Hong Kong just write off their few years abroad by hanging around amongst their own Chinese groups. The ones you have met with weird accents are at the top end.You will be lucky if some go back after 4 years having learnt 100 new words of English nevermind converted to Westernism…..
@littlefish
Do you mean Westerners don’t tend to care much about marrying? If that is what you then that’s fine. However, once a couple decides to marry they go crazy for the wedding.Usually it can be planned more than a year in advance to book and queue up for hot locations to hold the event. During the months before the wedding, they aren’t idle and are actually preparing all the intricate details. They can be hosted in castles and other historic properties. It is not just a banquet in a restaurant. Westerners as we know aren’t to greatest of money savers but they can spend five figures on engagement ring and the wedding. I don’t know where are you getting your facts from but the wedding is absolutely massive in the west!!
@coralie Glad to know there’s another person out there who shares my unpopular opinion on this matter.
A shower, by defintion, is a gift-giving event, so throwing your own is poor form, imo. One of my coworkers recently got engaged and decided she would be throwing an engagement party. I’ve never been to an engagement party in my life! Seems so unnecessary and frivolous. You’re essentially throwing a party for yourself where the price of admission is a gift (and not just ANY gift, but usually something off a list of dozens of items you’re asking to receive). Tacky, indeed.
Same goes for weddings etc… (the exception being the ones where the bride & groom specifically ask their guests not to bring gifts).
@oystergirl @janet72 Happy to hear the sentiment is shared lol! And yes, I feel like most of the time you’re forced to attend parties that you’re paying your share for, when you don’t even want to go in the first place.
@coralie
According to some on here there it is optional to attend once you get an invite. They didn’t think the friendship may end if choosing not to attend or if the present didn’t arrive…
@jimmyszeto it is optional in theory, but not so in practice… especially if you don’t have some crisis or whatever
@coralie having a full month party is a celebration that the baby is healthy. but gender reveal and baby shower prior to giving birth is more like getting people to give presents.
@janet72
And the big gender reveal is……..
Who cares? Why wait till 7-8 months and pull a baby gender publicity stunt? Does Ruco think he’s some kind of worldwide superstar or a member of the royal family? I usually give my child gender reveal by sending a lousy text to anyone who asks..
@jimmyszeto Gender Reveal parties are a new fad. Some people have a separate party for gender reveal, then later have a baby shower. It has gotten ridiculously over the top. There was a news story in Texas that a couple caused a large wild fire because their gender reveal was to shoot a target which would explode in either blue or pink smoke. They had to pay over $100K in damages.
@potatochip
Haha. It is a big show off bash. It’s not like there will be a big surprise and the ‘big reveal’ is the gender ‘Alien’. It’s either Male or Female. I think Ruco should show pride in his own ethnicity and not keep trying to be something he is not. Also he should stop forcing to create themselves as a ‘celebrity couple’ when only he is the celebrity out of the 2. I agree that the insecurities from all the years as a nobody and a very ugly thin extra very on in his TVB career has affected him greatly. He’s worried that without news his career could die…
@jimmyszeto wow your biased is strong. It’s a baby shower, simple as that quite common.
@daodao
Ok let’s throw a celebration. My baby has just had his first tooth…
@jimmyszeto you’re really on point that he “should stop forcing to create themselves as a ‘celebrity couple’ when only he is the celebrity out of the 2”. I also get the feeling that he’s trying very hard to promote his wife by constantly mentioning her and appearing in endless interviews with her that it’s almost like force-feeding people with news about her to the extent that it’s nauseating. Phoebe’s only claim to fame is as Ruco’s wife. Otherwise no one knows or cares a hoot about her.
@passingby2
You are emphatically wrong. Haha.Pheobe was on cooking beauties and clapped excitedly every time during advert breaks. Even then she seemed to be too old and out of place to be one of the flower girls on a variety show.Joking aside, Ruco is promoting them as a celebrity couple because it extends his own shelf life and they can request higher fees attending events together. Pheobe is manufactured by Ruco and is getting just as much publicity and attending just as many events as Grace Chan when Grace is an actual front line lead actress. If we look at this properly, Pheobe is in her late 20s and has done f all on the screens of the entertainment industry. Excuse the language…
@jimmyszeto Before she became Mrs Chan she was a kelefe (extra) at best. She’s now riding on the coattails of her husband and gets jobs and press coverage becos of him. Unlike Grace who is a celebrity in her own right and not dependent on her relationship with Kevin. So Phoebe-Ruco are just a wannabe celebrity couple. I’ll have a lot more respect for them if Phoebe made it on her own steam which obviously she didn’t becos no one knew who she was till Ruco came along and pulled her out from the sea of obscurity.
@jimmyszeto I don’t know Phoebe’s background or where she was raised, but I read in an interview that she did college in London. Therefore, she is Western in her thinking and it isn’t surprising that she wanted one. The gender reveal is likely from Phoebe and her millennial ways. Ruco embracing his wife’s views is not denying his own ethnicity. They will probably do a 1 month celebration too. It’s like how people wear the Western white wedding dress and the traditional Chinese one.
It is all perspective. Baby showers are so, so common that it does not seem like showing off to me. Common people have them, you don’t need to be a celebrity power couple to have one. People usually go casual, but I have been to a couple elaborate ones. Theirs really was not more extravagant than ones I have been to.
And guys, if you can’t find yourself wanting to celebrate your friend’s pregnancy, not excited about seeing their joy when they open a gift you chose just for them, and feeling like it is just an obligation; take a step back and re-evaluate your relationship. You aren’t friends. Do you even like the person?
I only have a few friends. I am an introvert. I am not popular. I don’t need to be. I find it exhausting to be around too many people. If I think it is a chore to go share someone’s happiness, I don’t go. Who cares if my aunt thinks I am rude to not go to my cousin’s best friend’s sister’s baby shower? Life is too short for these self-imposed pressures.
@potatochip I share the same sentiments as you. I have very few friends, if they do babyshower, even for number two, I would come and bring gifts. I always ask them first what they want out of the items I listed. Most of the time, they would pick one as their preference, however, I know they never need it, and between me n my friend, I have open door policies, if you have something to say, say it, rather than being polite and not saying it. I told them my attitude on the first day, and I basically know whether I gel with that person or not pretty soon after.
Like recently, I attended my friend’s second babyshower, and made some food for her party, because being Australian, bring a plate to share is the norm lol (I know.. being invited to a party yet you have to bring food lol, but it just makes everything easy and you don’t have to, you can just rock up empty handed, no one will throw you out or think bad of you as there are always plenty of food, but it makes everything super casual). And because I made food, she didn’t expect gift from me, I was late at getting the present, so I gave it to her after the party, and she was very greatful while continually said I don’t have to. You know when people are genuine and when they are not. For my other friend, apart from giving gift for babyshower (if they do have one), I always have a small gift for them when the new baby is born, and they let me visit them at the hospital, again, it’s not asked, but I feel like giving the little one. So it’s really boiled down to your friendship with that person really.
Americans known for over the top, that’s why they have gender reveal party, engagement party, blah blah blah. Blame the Americans and their trying to make people spend lol, all marketing ploy. If you guys want to complain, let’s start with valentine and diamond is a must ring for wedding/engagement, because traditional, it’s just any ring.
@jimmyszeto even royalty are not allowed to reveal the gender of their baby until after they have given birth.
the poor guests can’t be attending the party empty handed but after the baby is born, they have to attend 100 day old party again.
@janet72
The conclusion is that Ruco thinks he’s some kind of big shot. No one outside of TVB has even heard of him…
Ruco is a traditional man hmmm…. doubtful. Christian ladies like Grace Chan, not sure about Phoebe Sin whether she is one. This hypocrite Ruco Chan and Kevin Cheng all have shotgun wedding like their wife gave birth 5 months or 6 months after marriage!
Congrats to them! I like Quinn or Quincy as names. If I could be guaranteed a girl, I would have another kiddo. But alas…
@potatochip
Same here. If I was sure of a girl, I would have it. I mean my wife…
@potatochip quincy is a boy’s name right?
@janet72 It is. They probably won’t choose it. I just like boy names for girls – like Elliot. A lot of girl names were once male names back then – Ashley, Addison, Alexis, Brook, Darcy, Hillary, Kelley, Lindsey, etc. Plus, having two syllables flow better – Quincy Chan vs. Quinn Chan.
Oh, I just saw that Quinn use to be a male name too.
Hmmm now that it’s a girl with a name starting with a Q.. it limits a lot of choices
I wont be surprised if they named their baby Quinn. Then she will be Quinn (sounds like Queen) Chan . If MJ can name his son Prince, then surely they can name their daughter “Queen”. Not too showy right?
@passingby2
Ask Jayne to put up a prize and we all take a stab at the Name. Ruco would love that. Im going for Quest…
@jimmyszeto They may very well cook up some fantastic out-of-this world name. I mean if he can come up with Ruco for himself, I’m pretty sure he can invent something equally “unique” for his daughter.
@passingby2
I cant think of what he Ruco could create. Quack? maybe Quebec? He better not change the English language and eliminate the U as 2nd letter….
@jimmyszeto man, you really crack me up with Quack.
@passingby2
I would like it to be Quest for obvious reasons but I think it will be Quinney or Queenie….
@jimmyszeto
Well Qu names are so limited that Quack is in good contention…
As far as I know, baby showers and occasions for gender reveal are not part of traditional Chinese culture. These occasions are just pretentious! The Chinese don’t celebrate before a child is born – probably due to superstitious beliefs. For Ruco, who claims to be traditional, this just doesn’t jive! Well, quite used to what he claims and what he actually is right!!!