Tony Leung And Carina Lau Divorced Secretly Due To Incompatible Differences?
Yesterday, there were rife rumors on the Internet that Tony Leung (梁朝伟) and Carina Lau (刘嘉玲) have allegedly divorced. According to the rumors, the reason for the spilt was due to Carina being too aggressive in character while Tony was too quiet in contrast, thus resulting in irreconcilable frustrations. What exactly opened the door to their divorce plans had also become the focus of many, thus causing a heated discussion amongst netizens. At the moment, both of their management companies have since denied those rumors.
Tony Leung and Carina Lau to Divorce?
In recent days, the Internet suddenly sprouted rumors of Tony Leung and Carina Lau divorcing. In a definite tone, the rumors claimed that this was due to a large disparity between the couple’s behavior. As it was known to many, Carina’s character was extremely aggressive while Tony was more silent. The gap between the couple’s behavior only grew bigger and the frustrations accumulated over the days and months finally exploded. In consideration of each other’s “face” and the possible impact it may have, it was a secret divorce hence the couple chose not to announce it.
In recent days, Carina Lau has repeatedly been in the news. First, she was rumored to have flown to the United States with Tony to find a surrogate mother. After that, her earlier deleted nude bed scenes from a film were exposed, making it appear as if her bad news kept coming one after another. However, the news of their divorce still seemed too unbelievable. Currently, a spokesman for their management companies denied the rumors of their divorce and said that the news spreading on the web was not true and thus they see no need to respond to it.
After the news broke out, the alleged divorce of Tony Leung and Carina Lau became the concern of many thus incurring heated discussions amongst netizens. Upon hearing about the news first-hand, quite a few people expressed their disbelief and asked whether the rumor was true, one after another.
Many of their fans were working hard to pursue the original source of the rumors but other than discovering that it was spread through “word-of-mouth” via the Internet, they couldn’t find the original bearer of those rumors. Some also hoped that Tony and Carina could step up to clarify the truth.
A certain portion of netizens suspected that rumors of the divorce was not entirely baseless. First, the couple truly had a huge disparity between their personalities but being together for so many years, if there was any contradiction, it should have erupted years ago. Why did it only occur after many years of marriage together? Netizens also reasoned that since the management companies did not wish to disclose their reply on this but instead let the entire matter become vague, it strongly reminded them of Nicholas Tse (谢霆锋) and Cecilia Cheung’s (张柏芝) earlier divorce which was exposed by the people around them. Hence netizens felt that there was a chance of this being true afterall. As to how it will develop in the end and whether there was really such a matter, netizens could only sit on the sidelines and observe the situation.
Source: ilinkee.com
This article was translated by Ah K, a Contributing Writer at JayneStars.com.
Wow, if they really divorce this is shocking news.
They date so long back in their days of entering TVB, and they been through alot after Carina kinapped and rape news going around, and they survive that.
Then married, and now divorce? How sad, hope they can work it out, I think they made for each others.
@LeilaFan & fellow commentators:
Wait wait wait, I need some clarification here guys, I read an article years ago that Carina said in an interview that the kidnappers didn’t mean to hurt her and told her that they were only following instructions and they only stripped her and they didn’t molest or rape her so she was grateful to them so I was wondering, what is exactly the truth, was she only stripped or really raped? It’s very different you know! (http://justwoman.asiaone.com/Just%2BWoman/News/Celebrities/Story/A1Story20080713-76398.html)
*I meant what exactly is the truth
She wasn’t raped. She was I believe at least semi stripped. I remember seeing pictures of her looking very distressed, covering her breasts. They didn’t molest her I think, they just took pictures. But that should be traumatising enough.
Yes, Ah K
In my post below, I write: She said that those four men kinapped her didn’t rape her, but they did take Naked pictures of Carina Lau were published it. It was in big news back then at the time.
Her photos was years later post on magazine, they did strip her naked and takes photos though.
As for was she rape or not, only she knows.
She can be telling the truth, that those 4 men only stripped her.
Or, she can be rape but scare of the triad-boss might harm her more if she in public say she was rape. Or maybe she wants to save face since she is a public figure. Even normal women like us, would not like others know we were rape.
I really don’t know if she rape or not, some believe she was rape, some don’t.
@Funn Lim @LeilaFan:
Ah I see, so it is still a myth whether she was really raped or not and the more precise word would be to say that she was stripped, thank you for your inputs! 😀
@LeilaFan:
Oh yeah, I just saw it, was reading yours and the rest of the commentators’ interesting comments on monogamy and haven’t scroll down yet 🙂
hey so when Carina got kidnapped in the 90s, the pictures did get published at the time? Did she end up doing that film? And why did the mags republish it in 2002?
I don’t think the picture was published at the time. It only got published in 2002, which bring shock to many since it been so long time ago.
What ever it is with her and the triad-boss, it must been solve at the time since the pictures did not get public at all until 2002.
she did film the movie and tony took time off to accompany her until she finished the filming.
http://www.thefilipinopost.com/portal2/c1ee8c441b513295011b5606d39d00ff_Carina_Lau_talks_of_tears__terror_and_triad_kidnapping.do.h
AH K, i actually watched the dvd they filmed while raping her..she was even gang-rape and ishh such a scary and sad thing to watch, i can only bear to watch 1-2mins and quickly switched it off,she is a strong woman. hope she puts the past and God bless her :'(
No one knows the truth except her since she said that she would not talk about it to anyone, even Tony. Therefore, who really knows what actually happened besides her??
I don’t believe this news. If they are going to break for personality difference, they would have broken up long ago. They have been together for 20 years.
I agree, since they been together so long, and I also don’t believe this news.
Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston was know to be the “Golden couple” in Hollywood, no one would think they one day broke up, and they did. Hope Carina and Tony can make it through, I think they made for each others, they been through hell with each others too for the last 20 years.
@LeilaFan:
Ah speaking of Brad Pitt & Jennifer Aniston, they were the golden couple then, but as always it takes two hands to clap so maybe Jennifer didn’t do her duties as a wife properly hence Brad strayed? But then again, when faced with a sex goddess like Angelina Jolie, I doubt any man can withstand the temptation to cheat and especially since there’s no cat in this world which doesn’t eat fish. And to me, Angelina lost all chances of redeeming any “Mother Teresa” image (cause she was always going to Africa to do good deeds and raise awareness and even did a Madonna by adopting kids) left in her when she told a magazine that she and Brad were already trying to conceive a baby together even when he was still married to Jennifer Aniston (probably during their time of filming “Mr and Mrs Smith” together which meant that she abused Jennifer Aniston’s trust in her)
I mean Angelina, you can be a mistress for all you want to but please don’t go around telling people this, it just makes you very s***** you know? Can you imagine the hurt you caused to Jennifer to tell the whole world that you tried to conceive a child with her hubby while they were still married? Snatched people’s hubby already and didn’t bother giving her any “face” left. I know I going OTT here again lol! 😀
There is a lot of this kind of news to Carina and Tony in years but they didn’t. I don’t hope this time it’ll come true.
I think the differences in your personality that make them be together for the long while. Tony is man of little word, Carina is the party lady. They can be together in more than 20 years, they must know the differences and solved it.
Just sad that Tony and Carina tried hard but can’t have a kid. Tony is the pitiful man. His life is fulfilled with such things. The sadness can be seen in his eyes in the recent years.
Fox,
“Just sad that Tony and Carina tried hard but can’t have a kid.”
I wonder why they didn’t pursue the surrogate mother solution. If they just want to have their own baby, this would be best way short of adoption.
Chinese rarely would pursue that. Look at Chow Yun Fat, never did. I suppose she wants to give birth herself.
Funn,
“Chinese rarely would pursue that. Look at Chow Yun Fat, never did. I suppose she wants to give birth herself.”
I remember we discussed the adoption issue last time. It still baffles me somewhat. If the couple truly want kids, they can be parents in other ways.
@Jayne: Surrogate mother is an illegal way. And the risk is sometimes the surrogate mother dun accept to give the baby.
Fox,
I didn’t realize that every country seems to have different laws regarding the legality of surrogacy. Earlier, Lee Shau Kee’s son, Peter Lee, became the father of triplets through a surrogate mother, which was obtained through California (where surrogacy is legal), so I thought it was legal in Hong Kong.
@Fox,
that’s why there is contract to ensure the surrogate mother won’t break the agreement.
Veejay, if surrogacy is illegal, the contract is therefore illegal and void.
@Funn,
I don’t know where I heard this from that some women tend to create their own contract, I think tis between the surrogate moms and the women themselves only. It won’t require any lawyers to be present.. but then again, if surrogate is illegal..the contract will be illegal as well. XD
Funn is rite, since it’s illegal the contract will be void as well. The contract is just a method to make the surrogate mother (mostly are low educated woman) scared and followed the order because they dunno it’s illegal.
Which is why when the surrogate mother wants to keep the baby, in court they can. It is unfair but it is what it is. Some countries allow surrogacy but the amount must not be profitable; just towards bills and subsistence. But these countries are the very ones who says if surrogate mom wants the baby and later claim for money from the father, they can.
Jayne, I understand your POV but in the olden days isn’t there a cause for divorcing wives in olden days chinese society if the wife can’t give birth which is considered the number 1 reason and the worst crime for a woman to “commit” back in those days? I feel if there is any chance, a woman would want to give birth, experience it but sometimes when they can’t, desperate they turn to IVF, if failed, surrogacy, if failed some more adopt. But Chinese society also believes in naming the daughter with the name “Bring son” and the 2nd child may be a son, or dressing the eldest daughter in male clothes to bring forth a son in future or adopt a kid, who will welcome a son or own child. I think most would prefer being parents to their own flesh and blood. Very few adopts. How many can honestly love another’s child? Some can, but few. We always have this mentality this is not mine, I can’t discipline this child, etc.
Funn,
“How many can honestly love another’s child? Some can, but few. We always have this mentality this is not mine, I can’t discipline this child, etc.”
Perhaps this applies to step-children inherited from a second marriage. However, if the couple are desperate to be parents, adoption allows them to care for a child and grow as people themselves.
Back in the China days if you the 1st wife cannot give birth, or not give birth to a son then your husband have the legal rights to take in 2nd wife, and 3rd wife and so on…
Many ridiculous things and rules back then in the days, thankfully we don’t have to live in those ages anymore.
If a husband was going outside and cheat on their wife have another child with another woman, I don’t think most wife can be that forgiven and love that child eventhough that child is her husband flesh and blood.
But if a married couple cannot have children and desperate to the point for adoption, then I really believe they would love that child as if it their own child.
Hehe, the Muslims guy can have 4 wives and the legal age for a marriage (for girl) there is 10. Reason? Well, Mohammed has 4 wives and the smallest is 10 years old. Then just follow him.
Not only in China but also in western, a lot of guys had more than 1 wife. Just until the fairness of woman and man is given out, 1 wife – 1 husband is stipulated.
Well, we blame all on why women let men because the “strong side”. If women still rule, then maybe 1st husband can’t make the lady pregnant then can have 2nd husband, 3rd husband, etc.
However, the Asia world is now lacking woman (as 105 babies boy – 98 babies girl) so maybe it will happen in the future when girls have the right to choose man :P.
Fortunately in this 21st century almost all countries are monogamy law, 1 wife/husband at a time legally.
A man can have mistress outside, women can cheat if she wants, but legally in the eyes of law they are not legally a couple unless the original marriage was divorce.
Lawfully a couple can have many things such as spliting asset.. etc.. usually rich millionairs don’t want to divorce their wife because they don’t want to give half their asset to her, therefore if wanted then they just have mistress.
So since we live in this most countries are monogamous, get a man to married you first, at least legally by law it be harder for him to get rid of you instead of being a mistress.
Men can have as many wives as they want, as long as they divorce and then remarried.
The legal laws in USA will not allow more than 1 wife, 1 husband at the time.
If a man want to married another women, then they just have to divorce their wife first.
@Fox,
I didnt read or do any survey on the statistic but from my experience, my 3 colleagues including me gave birth to our bb last year and all of us have daughters LOL..none of us have son. I always thought bb boy is lesser compare to bb girl 🙂
I feel that is too. In China they said the gap of boys and girls is quite high in China, but then all my friends in China are giving birth to girls too.
Hopefully this will balance out the gender difference issue in China.
Congrats the ppl around you.
In overall, the statistic I provided is what I found in a survey of 2010.
Fox, if I remember correctly Mohammad had more than 4 wives, and his 1st wife was rather rich. Yes there was a child in the picture but do remember, this was like how many thousands of years ago, different values then.
@ Fox
“Hehe, the Muslims guy can have 4 wives and the legal age for a marriage (for girl) there is 10. Reason? Well, Mohammed has 4 wives and the smallest is 10 years old. Then just follow him.”
Muslims can have 4 wives not because Mohammad has 4. Their Holy Book the Koran (Or Quran) says can have 4. Mohammad has 10 because his case is special. As a prophet, he need to set examples of right living to his people. He need to set examples on how to treat wives right, so, he’s allowed to have more.
That’s what I read about the reason why Mohammad can have more than 4 wives.
Just a note on the 4 wives rule. A man can only marry 4 wives if he can treat all 4 fairly. If cannot, he should stick with one.
@ Leilafan
Back in the China days if you the 1st wife cannot give birth, or not give birth to a son then your husband have the legal rights to take in 2nd wife, and 3rd wife and so on…
Many ridiculous things and rules back then in the days, thankfully we don’t have to live in those ages anymore.
In those olden days, this kind of rule is practical and needed. In olden days, provide descendants to a family and has someone carry on the family name and caring of the ancestor tablet was VERY IMPORTANT.
If they practiced monogamy and men cannot have more than one wife, what happen when that wife cannot conceive? Divorce her and marry another? Wouldn’t that be worse for the woman? With her being the first wife and the husband marry another, she still has someone to take care of her and a roof over her head. Remember, in the old days, women have very few employment option. Also, there’s the belief that women can only enter ancestor altar if she married. That’s why parents in the olden days even arranged marriage for their dead daughters.
Fox, let me ask you. Would you be OK if now this rule still apply? So if you cannot give birth to a son and your husband legally can married 2nd and 3rd wife…
Hehe, rules like this back in the old days if the husband die, all the wives will be fighting over their husband assets, LOL!
Now in modern day, the legal, lawfully wife on the marriage certificate is the one who can legally split and take his asset.
I like the modern day laws better.
@LeilaFan: I like the rule that woman can choose men for her more. Ok :P?
But Kidd, in the olden days, a man can marry more than 1 wife, so to divorce a wife is a redundant thing. I mean he can marry 2nd, 3rd, 100th. To divorce the wife because she can’t give birth is malicious in nature, that poor woman will be without a husband and income, and no one will wanna marry her as well. It wasn’t a necessity in a polygamous society.
Now people who can marry more than 1 wife don’t do it because 1st wife can’t have children or to procreate, they do it because they can, legally
My apologies Kidd, I skipped the 2nd part of your post. Well said and I agree!
You mean you like the rule that women can choose men for his money? Sure, if if you like to choose men for their money, then I don’t think you will like the “legally” many wives rules, because if many wives rules are legal, then when divorce, they legally by law can split the husband asset to 3-4-5 parts with you. Better off if one legal wife, then if divorce, you can get half his asset, Lol!
And ah, I misread your post Kidd.
OK to your post.
I mean Fox, I misread Fox post. Sorry
Ppl in my offices has a joke like this: “A guy walks in the street, a kid kicks him. He dun punish the kid, why?
The answer: “Oh he is afraid that the kid might be his sons. Too many then have to treat all the kids nice”.
Ahhhh a better one,,,
“he can be arrested for child abuse”
Nowadays children are so “precious”. I remember the times when I saw my father holding a belt about to strike my brother. Now, my father would have been arrested.
@ Funn
“But Kidd, in the olden days, a man can marry more than 1 wife, so to divorce a wife is a redundant thing.”
That’s why I said the polygamy rule was practical and needed in olden day china. 😀
@ Funn: The joke wanna mean that the guy has too many “wives” so he scared that any child in the street might be his 😛 but he dunno.
It’s for the topic of “wives” we are having.
Yours is different. Yes, now the kids have more right. A good thing but also a bad thing. The kids dun feel scared of parents’ punishment because they can call police.
Uh yes, he should be arrested. Belt is quite violent. I think one light spank on the butt or hand is okay b/c young children don’t understand any other way. But for older children, just ground them. They can understand there are consequences for being bad.
I agree with josie, I would just ground them. Take away their TV, video games, cellphone, their money allowance, won’t buy them new things they asked for unless they learn how to behave.
Actually ever thought how come children now are so wild and disrespectful? Not that there weren’t any in olden days but discipline was important back then. If we can reason with children, they wouldn’t be children. I agree with the belt, in my brother’s case that is. He did something wrong, not just something deserving of a warning. In asia, fathers often chased around son with rattans and belts in the past but the sons grew to respect the father for being a disciplinarian. Never seen the older generation not taking care of their aged father or having a close relationship.
However nowadays…sad case…
But Leilafan, that is like teaching them materials for materials, there is no value in teaching them how to behave. I believe in the old school. A bit of a caning is not abuse. I don’t believe in pushing, shoving, slapping, kicking but caning, I believe. I myself was caned when I was little and it didn’t do me any harm. I bet the kid will be more traumatised by seeing his dad got arrested for caning him and knowing he could be left alone without his dad.
But I kinda disagree with threats like “You go now, move out, leave, I don’t want you anymore!!” and shoving the kid out to the street and slamming the doors.
Funn, Yes, being strict with our kids I don’t think is a bad thing.
And I agree with how you say before children obey their parents, and now many children, especially in the “western countries” would just shove their parents to senior home when their parents get old.
But since I live in a country where not allow hitting children, I do not want to hit my son and get trouble with the law, and end up in court, or worst in jail.
Funn, in Malaysia won’t allow hitting too? Here in USA is a No no!
Malaysia is Asian society, even teachers do cane students although lesser. But I am increasingly seeing parents begging their children to behave in public as in “Please dear, stop being so naughty”. In olden days, a more effective way would be “If you don’t shut up I will slap you!!” and immediately the kid behaves.
Funn, so caning is done w/ a big cane? Like the size of that stick Moses is holding?
Yikes, that is too harsh for kids, especially a little girl. Reminds me of how the accused are punished w/ 50 big paddles on the ass in ancient series.
“Fox says:
August 19, 2011 at 1:43 am
@Jayne: Surrogate mother is an illegal way. And the risk is sometimes the surrogate mother dun accept to give the baby.”
Agree with @Fox, I have read quite a few celebrities’ cases of the surrogate mother being greedy and all and only tried exorting more and more money. Well, being able to have access to a “money bank” is tempting and never enough I guess.
@Funn Lim @Kidd:
“My apologies Kidd, I skipped the 2nd part of your post. Well said and I agree!”
No offense @Funn but this is the first time I’m seeing you praise someone! Lol! @Kidd, you can go and buy the lottery already heehee! Just kidding ah, hope you guys don’t mind! 😀
If one is barren, I think adopting a child would be better than letting your husband conceive a child with a mistress. Whenever you look at this child, won’t you feel a thorn in your heart as it reminds you of the ultimate betrayal of your husband? Just wondering!
I prefer adoption, that is my preference, others might have other preference.
I don’t think many women are willing to raise another child of their husband with some other women, and love that child as their own.
Maybe there are some, but I see it few.
I also don’t think any wife is OK after finding out their husband have another child with a mistress.
I can’t to be honest, maybe others women can.
@ Funn
“Which is why when the surrogate mother wants to keep the baby, in court they can. It is unfair but it is what it is. Some countries allow surrogacy but the amount must not be profitable; just towards bills and subsistence. But these countries are the very ones who says if surrogate mom wants the baby and later claim for money from the father, they can.”
This shouldn’t be allowed. She agreed to the contract, she should fulfill it. At most, give her visitation rights. It’s just wrong for her to keep the child then demand money from the father. If she want to keep the child and court award it to her, let her bring up the child herself. But then, that will be unfair for the child and the parents won’t be able to bear seeing their child doesn’t have a decent life. Tough.
Can court stipulate that the money given by the parents can only be used for the child?
@ Josie
“Funn, so caning is done w/ a big cane? Like the size of that stick Moses is holding?
Uh, you think Asian parents are sadist or what? Of course, not huge cane like that. The cane used is usually made from rattan and very thin. Cause pain but not harm. But, some parents will use the other end of the feather duster if a cane is not available.
I don’t know about other countries, but I speak for California, USA since I live here and it legal here in USA.
One of the rule here in USA regarding to surrogate mother are the surrogate mother have to have at least 1 child of her own already. USA have this law since they want to check and make sure she in good health to have another baby. Also, this rule helps the surrogate mother not to miss the baby she carried too much after she give birth, since she herself at least have 1 baby of her own already at home.
Also here in California, USA since it is legal, so the contract the surrogate mother sign is legal by law. And the surrogate mother is not allow to take back the baby, since clearly in the contract sign by her. Once she get pay, recieve the money, she have to fulfill what she agree to in the contract.
Here is an example of a case in USA back in the 1980′s. In 1984 a New Jersey couple, William Stern and Elizabeth Stern, contracted to pay Mary Beth Whitehead $10,000 to be artificially inseminated with William Stern’s sperm and carry the resulting child to term. Whitehead decided to keep the child after it was born, refused to receive the $10,000 payment, and fled to Florida. In July 1985, the police arrested Whitehead and returned the child to the Sterns.
this is the reply regarding corporal punishment for kids.
Agree w/ funn, lots of kids are quite wild and uncontrollable now aday. Partly i think because the system. I was quite shock when enrolled my kids to school they have me to sign/agree to a list of things that i should not do to my kids.
1. Shouldn’t yell.
2. Shouldn’t talk loud to them.
3. Shouldn’t smack them etc.
and the list go on.
And i’ve done nearly all of them on the list or at least 8 or 9 of them.
i smack my kids, only w/ hand and on their hiney. No slap on face or head , shoving or pushing i think that’s a bit out of boundary and be abusive.
“Funn Lim says:
Actually ever thought how come children now are so wild and disrespectful? Not that there weren’t any in olden days but discipline was important back then. If we can reason with children, they wouldn’t be children. I agree with the belt, in my brother’s case that is. He did something wrong, not just something deserving of a warning. In asia, fathers often chased around son with rattans and belts in the past but the sons grew to respect the father for being a disciplinarian. Never seen the older generation not taking care of their aged father or having a close relationship.
However nowadays…sad case…”
Agree with @Funn. Kids nowadays are too spoiled rotten with their playstations, psp, iPhone and iPad (Heck, my friend’s sister even bought an iPad for her baby, oh my goodness!) and they will throw tantrums when confiscated such that parents just give in to their demands. I think it’s the cons of an advanced technology. Think about it. Have you guys noticed that nowadays, most families do not even have dinner conversations anymore and gathering with friends have been very distracting lately? This is because everyone’s busy playing games or logging onto Facebook or Twitter on their iPads and iPhones. Such that people use work as a convenient excuse not to join the dinner table and it is beginning to show signs of a “less communication” era such that parents don’t really talk to their children about anything under the sun and vice versa and they tend to drift apart as a result.
Just wondering, have you guys read “Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother” by Amy Chua? This is one book that I would strongly recommend. Basically, this book talks about how Amy Chua uses extra-ordinate methods to teach and discipline her daughters. For example, she believes in not praising her daughters even if they scored 95/100 and would taunt them by making them feel guilty (emotional blackmail) by saying “I put you through to school and this is the best you can do?”, calls her daughters “sewage (something along that line)” and making her daughters play the piano and violin even during holidays overseas (instilling discipline) Well but I guess she must be doing something right since her daughter Sophia was accepted in Yale and Harvard. I think kids nowadays are too spoiled so parents should pick up SOME of the tips mentioned to discipline them (I don’t agree with some of the more intense ones used)
And as @Funn mentioned above, caning. Caning works wonders, really. I myself am a product of well-caning, if my mom didn’t cane me, I think I wouldn’t have done good (I would probably have joined the triads or something) and be able to enter university and stuff. And like what Sue Sylvester said in “Glee”, “You know, caning has fallen out of fashion in the United States. But ask anyone who’s safely walked the immaculate sidewalks of Singapore after winning an international cheerleading competition, and they’ll tell you one thing. Caning works! And I think it’s about time we did a little more of it right here. And to all those neigh-sayers out there who say ‘That’s illegal! You can’t strike children on their bare buttocks with razor-sharp bamboo sticks!’ Well, to them I say, yes we cane.”
But the sad thing is, nowadays parents aren’t even allowed to cane their kids, I have heard stories of neighbors threatening to call the cops in due to child abuse -_-”
FYI: Erm the cane is just a rattan stick, like as thin as a tree twig but it can leave a red stick mark for quite some days, haha just ask me, I used to be so naughty I always got beaten by my mom and my dad even hit my hand with a metal plank lol!
Strict discipline is good, but I will not canned my children since the law here clearly stated that if I hit them I will be in deep trouble with the law.
I do not want police come to my house, take me and bring me to court, or worst I end up in jail for hitting my kids.
@LeilaFan:
Wow, so serious in the US? In Singapore, the government turns a blind eye to parents caning their kids (heck, even the traditional household shops openly display the canes for housewives to buy them) that is unless someone call the cops on them lol, probably just a telling off and warning but no jail term.
LOL, try emotional blackmail method, it does work, I used it on my mentee (I was giving free tuition to those needy kids) and within three months, she won some best improvement in studies award heh heh! *evil laugh* 😛
Yes, serious in USA. Here is an example of my neighbor couple years ago. My neighbor have a child about age 7-8, child must be stubborn or what ever but my neighbor hit the child, and there were marks on her arm. The kid went to school, and the teacher in school saw red marks on her arm, immediately call the police. Police come see the child have been hit and sue my neighbor to court. They went to court, in the mean time the court order the child to be taken away from the mom+dad, and have to live with their aunt+uncle, because the police scare the child will be hit again.
I really do not want to be in this situation, I do not want to go to court or get sue. There more to my life than get sue over this. I just ground my son if henot listen, and take away all his stuff until he listen to me, LOL!!
@ita:
Oh my goodness, that’s ridiculous! Actually I think my parents have done all three of the must-not-dos you stated and probably more lol!
Oh well, there’s still the quiet corner approach to use I guess (:
@LeilaFan:
Wow. Erm did they put the parents to jail? That’s absurd! But yeah I agree don’t cane your kids in the USA then, later your kids sent to social care or put in an orphanage home while you serve jail term is worse! :O
This family were immigrant to USA, they came from Mexico and they didn’t know the USA law, maybe they used to hit their kids in Mexico.
They didn’t go to jail since it their first time, But the court put on them probation watch, and order them to go take law and anger management classes on child abuse, and control their temper.
On the whole time they on probation watch, the kid have to live with the aunt+uncle. Luckily they have relatives here in USA, or else the kid might end up in social care.
Later I get married and move out, I don’t live in that neighborhood anymore. But The family did get scare though, I don’t think they will ever hit their kid again.
Josie,
So cane is very Asian? If you drop by at Malaysia, I encourage you to buy one home! It is long, thin rattan, good for children, can even beat your husband or your pet. We are not abusers!!
Kidd;
“This shouldn’t be allowed. She agreed to the contract, she should fulfill it. At most, give her visitation rights. It’s just wrong for her to keep the child then demand money from the father. If she want to keep the child and court award it to her, let her bring up the child herself. But then, that will be unfair for the child and the parents won’t be able to bear seeing their child doesn’t have a decent life. Tough.”
This is a legal question. It depends if such a contract is allowed. If it is isn’t, void, but the father can contest the custody by saying he is a better provider, etc, like normal custody cases. It is not that she signs something she is bound by it. It is illegal contract, on the basis it is immoral, you can rent your womb, sell your baby even if just for hospital costs. However don’t we have many people picking baby up and bring home just like that?
If legally allowed, then the contract is enforceable so you can force the child to be given to the ones who paid. But I notice even in this sort of situation, if the surrogate mother refuses, then it is a question who is a better caretaker. Usually, unfairly, but usually a mother is considered the better caretaker. So the father can force for visitation rights. The father has a responsibility to pay. If I believe in England or america they can force a semen donor to pay for a child he didn’t even know he has, why not someone who knows? Crazy eh? BUT your obligation does not end just because you don’t want the child. The child is a human being.
“Can court stipulate that the money given by the parents can only be used for the child?”
You mean monthly money? The money is given to the caretaker, the one having custody and what she or he does with it, who knows? It is assumed for the child, used on the child. Most usually the money is never enough. But in cases where a lot is given, what will the court do everytime the father demands for receipts, etc? Have a bit of faith. As long as the child is educated, well fed, dressed well, assumption is the money is used for the child. But for ordinary folks, usually the amount given is never enough. The mother must top up.
Surrogacy in Malaysia is illegal contract. But if no one says anything, no one will know. But a muslim child can’t be brought up by non muslim, however I wouldn’t say that is the certain rule.
Tiger Mom is a bit too much but then the success justifies the means. However I am one of those who thinks as long as the results are good, let the child have a life. Childhood is supposed to be free and happy. All these lessons are just drowning the child.
“1. Shouldn’t yell.
2. Shouldn’t talk loud to them.
3. Shouldn’t smack them etc.”
I wonder how these kids will survive when they come out to society to work. Will they freaked out just because the boss talk a little harsher to them?
Which is why Kidd, a bit of cyber bullying or work pressure, they kill themselves.
I read someone in Asianfanatics said Tony doesn’t like children because he has a sad childhood.
I never knew much of Tony’s childhood. Can elaborate?
Funn,
Below is information about Tony’s childhood taken from Wikipedia:
“Leung was born in Hong Kong, though his family came from Taishan, Guangdong, China. Leung’s early childhood was punctuated with parents’ quarrels and arguments about money. A mischievous boy in his early years, Leung’s personality changed when his father, a chronic gambler, left the family when he was eight; he and his younger sister were brought up single-handedly by their mother.[1][2]
Leung became a reticent, quiet child. He has said that his childhood experiences paved the way for his acting career, which allows him to openly express his feelings: “You don’t know what happened, just one day your pop disappears. And from that day on I try not to communicate with anyone. I’m so afraid to talk to my classmates, afraid that if someone says something about family I won’t know what to do. So I became very isolated. So that’s why I love acting, because I can express all my feelings the way I couldn’t for so long.” .[3] “I’m a quiet person. And then when I went to TV it all came out; I cried and I wasn’t ashamed. The audience thinks it’s the character’s feelings, but really it’s my feelings, all coming out in a rush.” [1]
Leung’s mother worked hard to keep him attending a private school, but even so, Leung had to quit school at the age of 15 due to financial difficulties. As an adolescent he behaved himself and remained very close to his mother. During a DVD interview on the making of Hero, he says that he sees his mother as his definition of a “hero[ine]” for having brought up two children alone.”
It is ironic that despite Tony’s reticent personality, he became popular in the 80s for portraying loud, brash characters such as in “Duke of Mt. Deer” completely opposite of his real life personality.
Tony in “Duke of Mt. Deer” isn’t that lousy, Jayne.
Thanks Jayne. As always, the absent father. He can speak English which shows he was quite educated, even if with HK accent. Is his mom still alive? Younger sister? Never seen her before.
@ Funn
Tony said he learned his english in kindergarten. He must have went to a very good kindergarten to enable him to speak such good english.
I think the fact that he went to a private school helps. Private school’s teaching standard is usually better than public school I believe.
Just shows he is a smart guy, could have probably got a degree if he had a decent chance at full education. As opposed to some who claimed to be from some western country and can’t even string a proper sentence together, Tony Leung really surprised me, even if his is HK accent
I thought that Tony was great in DOMD as Wei Xiao Bao. I remember Tony once mentioning that his acting seems so real because his emotions are real. If he wanted to be sad, he can just think of something sad and tears would just come out of his eyes. I think that is why is acting is good. It was because he used real feelings and emotions.
@Funn,
Yes, Tony’s mom is still alive and he is really really close to his mom. I remember once when he was in a fight with Carina so he moved out and came back to live with his mom. I heard his younger sister was married a long time ago. He doesn’t really mention his sister much since I think she moved out of HK after she got married. Tony had to quit skill at a young age since his father left the family. Being the only guy, he felt that he had to protect his mom and younger sister. After his father left the family, he became really quiet and withdrawn and did not tell his problems to anyone including his mom since she did not want her to worry about him.
He entered the circle after applying and auditioning with TVB. I think it was Stephen Chow who encouraged him to do so if I remember correctly.
I was really impressed with is English. He is really fluent and doesn’t have a thick accent. I heard that he watched Sesame Street a lot when he was younger and that helped as well. I also believe that he would have excelled in school if he was given a chance to attend school all the way through.
@Fox,
Thanks but Statistic is not always correct hehe…especially the one which shows the number of minorites in Msia..kekek (I know Funn knows what i mean).
@Leilafan,
That’s why old traditional chinese family values bb boy more..which is a sad thing. I truly think bb girl is better haha just because they tend to take care of their own parents more even after they got married.
Veejay,
Ahem! Huh?
My friends in Xian those my age and married gave birth to girls.
People I chat with also have daughters, majority of them have.
So to be honest, I see more girls birth than boys. Maybe different people live in different countries and location see boys more.
@Veejay,I know if I have daughter, my mother in law will nagging me and my husband everyday until I give her a son. So thankfully I have a boy, so I can avoid all the nagging, now my mother in law is very happy to take care of her grandson when me and my husband at work.
And Veejay, a funny thing I hear from others is that people have sex everyday tends to have girls, and people have sex less tends to have boys. Examples like Nic and Cecilia always busy go filming and not always together so they ends up having 2 boys, Haha!! Don’t know, but it just what I heard around, LOL!!!!
Funn, hope you don’t mind I post a sex ratio demographic of Malaysia.
http://www.indexmundi.com/malaysia/sex_ratio.html
Should be accurate since it from CIA World Factbook, and I see the same information in Wikipedia.
Malaysia Sex ratio
Sex ratio: at birth: 1.069 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.06 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.01 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.79 male(s)/female
total population: 1.01 male(s)/female (2011 est.)
Seem like just a bit more males in Malaysia than females.
@Funn,
I’m not sure if you know this about the statistic of minorities in malaysia, someone works work for the government told me that the Govn sort of fake the statistic to make the majority to look large just to scare the minorities if they plan to rebel sort of. XDD
@Leilafan,
I guess i’m luckier than your friends, my mom in law or mom doesn’t mind if i have plenty of bb girl lol. since gender isn’t something dat important in my country plus we believe as long as the bb is healthy that’s enough for us 😀
Veejay, if combined all races of course minorities are more but just 1 to 1, I think there is a valid cause for concern. Anyway aren’t they beefing up the numbers with so many foreigners? And let’s guess why the crime rate is up… You give them citizenship, you don’t give them decent jobs, guess what will happen…
@Funn,
Truly agree with on you, tell ya I’m really sick of the “govn” action by legalising these illegals even some of them are “good”. But I guess the main concern for our Govn is as long as they vote them in the next GE – General Election and help to maintain the political status, I guess giving R to them isn’t a matter. I think that’s their main purpose.
Do u find it dangerous to stay in Msia anymore? since the acid splasher strikes again recently? I feel like moving to HK already hahaha.
They fake the statistic? I never knew that. The statistics I saw, minority already small percentage. You mean it’s actually smaller?
“Anyway aren’t they beefing up the numbers with so many foreigners?”
Totally hate this tactic. I still want to vote for them since I don’t have confidence in the other option. Why do they keep on giving me reasons not to. 🙁
Veejay, HK had a acid splasher, it started from there and I think someone learned the tactic. I don’t think Malaysia is less safe than anywhere else in the world. Every country has their own crime rate, maybe move to Kelantan or something. Smaller towns.
Funn, are there alot of foreigners in Malaysia? I meant the foreigners which are not “Asian” race. Since you talking about statistic of “Asian countries” that more girls than boys. I considered Chinese living in Malaysia still fall under the “Asian” category.
Typo, I meant the statistic of “Asian countries” now have more boys than girls.
Many foreigners in Malaysia? None Asian ones.
Many ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS but yes, many foreigners, of the Asian kind. But not Malaysian.
Chinese are Asian, even if you say China.
And why is it when gwailos come here to work they’re expatriates but when we legitimately go to gwailo countries to work we are foreign workers? I told my sis if she were to go to say european country to work she ain’t expatriate. Don’t even have expatriate’s benefits.
@Kidd,
if the info of what my friend gave is correct, yes they fake the statistic but which year did they fake it, dunno because it seems like Govn has been encouring our malay counterpart to breed more since they give away subsidy.
I could understand why you still thinking of voting barisan, the opposition themselves have problems internally like corruptions, misunderstand and clash in culture.
But Kidd, if you’re active in reading politic news, you’ll be disgusted with the govn 🙂
@Funn,
Although HK was the one who started with acid splasher, I have serious doubt with our police force since bribe can do anything~!~~ even release from jail and cctv at macc can goes missing.
Acid splasher is too high profile, won’t be able to buy his way out. Moreover probably not rich or powerful.
I voted for the opposition because I know BN will win but I want more opposition in the parliament, to give them a voice. And as far as I am concerned, my area used to be opposition area and they did well, within what they could. Next time vote opposition, give them a voice. BUT please no PAS. NO NO NO PAS. Even if they say they’re tolerant, they have other races how great they’re etc, any political party based on religion is always subject to their religious rules and if we are of different religious views, that is a problem.
@ Funn
PAS is one of my great concern. If Opposition really do win, they will form State government and PAS will have a lot of say in the country’s direction and law. Their numbers are big. I don’t have confidence in them being tolerant seeing how some of their members act especially the youth group and that very outspoken second in command. If Kelatan MB gone, that second in command will most probably be head of PAS. You read the news of him wanting to combine with BN instead?
I don’t think DAP or anyone else will combine with PAS, different ideology. I don’t think opposition will ever win, but just enough of voice to make a sound.
@ Funn
“I don’t think DAP or anyone else will combine with PAS, different ideology.”
But, aren’t they already combined into Pakatan Rakyat?
Pakatan Rakyat is desperate but see how they often fight?
I don’t know about other countries, but I speak for California, USA since I live here and it legal here in USA.
One of the rule here in USA regarding to surrogate mother are the surrogate mother have to have at least 1 child of her own already. USA have this law since they want to check and make sure she in good health to have another baby. Also, this rule helps the surrogate mother not to miss the baby she carried too much after she give birth, since she herself at least have 1 baby of her own already at home.
Also here in California, USA since it is legal, so the contract the surrogate mother sign is legal by law. And the surrogate mother is not allow to take back the baby, since clearly in the contract sign by her. Once she get pay, recieve the money, she have to fulfill what she agree to in the contract.
Here is an example of a case in USA back in the 1980’s. In 1984 a New Jersey couple, William Stern and Elizabeth Stern, contracted to pay Mary Beth Whitehead $10,000 to be artificially inseminated with William Stern’s sperm and carry the resulting child to term. Whitehead decided to keep the child after it was born, refused to receive the $10,000 payment, and fled to Florida. In July 1985, the police arrested Whitehead and returned the child to the Sterns.
Well, honestly I don’t want to believe this news, but if it is true then it is very shocking. However, so many people that I originally thought would be together forever would all of a sudden divorce out of the blue.
It is true that their personalities are very different and we would all think that if they separated or wanted to divorce, then they would have done so years ago. However, after being with each other for so many years, maybe their personality differences are starting to take the toll on their tolerance level?? I guess when you start out dating or just got married, you can tolerate many things since you may still be in the “honeymoon” stage. But after years and years of marriage, if you were incompatible or become incompatible, then are you still able to put up with what you were able to before?? Your tolerance level may have maxed out and you cannot stand it anymore. I think that is one of the reasons that may lead to the end of any relationship/marriage. Therefore, if that is the case with Tony and Carina, then I can understand it.
I also highly doubt that it is because Carina cannot have kids. I think Tony knows that Carina is way too old to have kids naturally. I have heard that Tony did not like kids or wanted to have any. But I guess he may have changed over the years and really wants kids now. But I feel that if they can’t, they could have just adopted or get a surrogate mother. However, sadly many asian people are too selfish to adopt and only want their own kids. Not everyone can treat any old kid just like their own.
Huh? So fast? Been together unmarried so long then married and divorce? Could be true. The last I heard they were trying for children. Sometimes a marriage certificate is the final nail in the coffin so to speak.
I used to think that anyone that was married was glued to each other for life,but of course I know now that that is not true at all. Nothing is guaranteed in life…
can anyone explain about the “rape” scandal of Carina? seems like she has been through a lot with Tony. im reminded of Ceci and Nic again.
This is what happened, back then when Carina was newly famous and enter the industry. Carina in 2008 during an interview said that “she was abducted by four men working for a triad boss, as “punishment” for having refused a film offer.”
She said that those four men kinapped her didn’t rape her, but they did take Naked pictures of Carina Lau were published it. It was in big news back then at the time.
That is all that I remember, maybe anyone else have anything to add in, can tell you more.
That about right. She wasn’t raped but you can see she was scared out of her wits. No pictures were published correct until many years later, which was really low of that magazine. I think this incident made Carina stronger. They just wanted to scare her, never intended to do her harm physically.
Ppl said that Albert Yeung – boss of EEG – is the one who set up the plan. He did that to avoid that Carina can leave his company and as a punishment to her.
She wasn’t be raped but filmed an adult video and they made it looked like she is raped.
TVB then did a similar case in a series with Roger Kwok and Amy Kwok.
Fox,
“Ppl said that Albert Yeung – boss of EEG – is the one who set up the plan. He did that to avoid that Carina can leave his company and as a punishment to her.”
When Carina Lau won the HKFA Best Actress Award this year, she attended an after-party held by EEG and Albert Yeung. If Albert Yeung did arrange for her kidnapping, would Carina be able to set aside the incident and still attend this party?
“TVB then did a similar case in a series with Roger Kwok and Amy Kwok.”
What series was this?
@Jayne: Even if Albert really did that, with his power, maybe Carina dun wanna mess up with him.
As for this series, I dun rmb name as well. I just rmb that I saw Roger Kwok is in it. Maybe not Amy Kwok but Kenix Kwok?. I also rmb that Eileen Yeow acted this actress. She is an actress and she is friend of the main female lead who is a police.
Crimes of passion? Is it? Because recently I watched too many with Roger Kwok so I might mistaken the content of the series.
Yes I remember such a series not sure which but I remember was it eileen was raped etc. DIF?
I tend to think that if there were no truth in the divorce rumours, Tony/Carina’s spokespersons or they themselves would be quick to refute them in a public statement.
Perhaps they’re not properly divorced (yet), but their relationship is on the rocks?
But, didn’t this statement show that they already refute?
“Currently, a spokesman for their management companies denied the rumors of their divorce and said that the news spreading on the web was not true and thus they see no need to respond to it.”
Frankly that’s what spokesperson do. They deny, deny deny until in the end they admit.
Agree with Funn, majority of spoke person will deny, and it has been proven so in many cases in the entertainment industry.
But I really hope Carina and Tony can remain married, couples been through thick and thin deserve to be happy.
I believe that they’re still happily married and this is just a rumour
I don’t believe this too. They’re been together for a long time
I think that IF it were not true, then they should step up and say something to clarify. If they just go silent like that, then it may not help things and may even lead people to believe that there is some truth to it. However, if this rumour just occurs once and stops, then it may be less likely true. But if it occurs over and over again, then there may be a chance that it is true.
I really don’t know what to believe. Although Carina and Tony have been together for so long, nowadays it doesn’t mean anything. There are so many divorces in the world these days so I would not be terribly surprised. On the other hand I really, really wish that the rumours are false since they do seem very well matched (on the surface anyway) and I am a great fan of them both. It would be a real shame if they did split or have already split. If the rumours are true, then it could be that the romance has gone stale and they both need something more refreshing. All marriages have their ups and downs and I just hope that they will work out their differences.
Oh and just want to say the picture of Carina above in red dress is so beautiful. Very beautiful for her age.
I like her, she always seem to have meat on her body, not like those skinny too thin actress nowadays.
It is because she has full make up on. I have seen her in a photo without make up and she looks really old…
Agree. I have always liked Carina very much – ever since she was a very young actress working for TVB. She has charm, talent, elegance and beauty. I also like Tony a lot and thinks he was very understanding regarding her ordeal a few years back when she was kidnapped. Some men would have been very old fashioned and not been too happy about it but he was so sweet and thoughtful. I really think they are the golden couple of Chinese cinema and would be quite sad if they were to split up.
i hope the rumour is not true but as there is no smoke without fire i am afraid it might be true ..maybe too much stress due to carina her biological clock is fast clicking away ..in fact her biological clock should have stopped..and tony wants a baby to afterall and it is not too late for him..he can always find a younger woman
Carina age might be harder to concieve a baby, but her biological clock is not stopped. She born in 1965, that means she now age 45-46
Here in USA, many women give birth at age 40+ so can’t said Carina biological clock stopped, LOL!! Women don’t usually enter menopause at age 45-46
According to medicinenet: The average age of a woman having her last period, menopause, is 51
Therefore I still believe Carina still have hope left, unless she is like a big party girl at such young age and do something damage to her body.
THose are rare cases and it is true that women can still give birth after 45. My friend’s mom had her at 47, but she was her last child. I think the key is whether it is your first child or not. If it is your first child, then it is a lot harder…
Yes, key is first children.
Only time will reveal if this news is true or not, but if it is true, boy, what a year for the HK entertainment world. Carina and Tony has been through so much together these past 20 years, so it would be a pity if they have separated.
I know and this has been such a bad year in terms of love for the celebs. I wonder if this year is cursed or not… However,IF it is true then I think we should not be too shocked since anything unexpected can happen.
Hahaha Tony is obviously gay. Had to use a surrogate mother? How obvious is that? Carina has had enough of being his beard. Tony, its time for u to come out of the closet and enjoy the gay life that u really deserve 😉
A girlfriend of my saw the video, she was outright raped, she said at the end of the video clip the blindfold was also taken off to make no mistake it is Carina.
A death sentence should be given out by all actresses in Hong Kong to cut off the balls of the 4 men and mastermind. There is no law in Honky Kong, 2 decades later, the crime remained unsolved.
Come on, everybody chip in a 100K and the bounty will be over 1Billions, the biggest single Honky Kong contract ever, this time for a just revenge, to bring fear back to the souls of all triads themselves!!!